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Continued: I think it's pretty obvious that genes have quiet a bit to do with intelligence and achievement. There have been too many studies done on race and iq

Continued: I think it's pretty obvious that genes have quiet a bit to do with intelligence and achievement. There have been too many studies done on race and iq, race and crime, race and achievement to just throw out. I'm not the smartest but at least I'm living in reality. And I'm proud to see so many HNers here doing the same and acknowledging the important role genetics has in our lives. It's good to know there's more people following truth and science no matter how blasphemous it may seem to a delusional emotion-oriented general population hell bent on believing that everyone is "100% equal" in order to feel good about themselves. Nature is racist. Us finding out about it is not.

nether 13y ago
It's only racist if you think the value of a person is tied to his intelligence. Achievement is definitely related to intelligence, but I don't think achievement makes one better than another.
RodericDay 13y ago
you know, under this kind of racist mindset, I don't know why other races would just sit pretty and accommodate a system that arbitrarily puts caps on their own nature-given superior traits (you would say, strength and charisma) in favor of allowing other races' superior traits (i would say, lack of empathy and greed) dominate. i guess what I'm trying to say is that it'd be fun seeing you try to stand tall and pontificate about the importance of institutionalizing all sorts of unfounded, intuitionist beliefs about race- nevermind the fact that race is hard to determine in a large number of cases- to the detriment of individuals if society didn't put an arbitrary limitation on their exploitation of strength for personal gain no i guess what i'm trying to say is that usually racists are dweeby ugly little people that stand proud on the shoulders of the achievements of those who they perceive to be 'kin' (nevermind jewish/irish/italian/slav/etc. divisions from yesteryear), and that i wouldn't mind seeing you publicly made fun of and/or beat up because of it.
anaphor 13y ago
The effect a gene has on a trait isn't equal in all environments. It plays a larger part in groups of people who have very similar environmental conditions, conversely it plays a much smaller role in populations with a high variation in environmental conditions. We know that there is a fairly large variation in the environments of the groups you mentioned so it stands to reason the differences have very little to do with genetics. tl;dr go learn what heritability is.

nether 13y ago

It's only racist if you think the value of a person is tied to his intelligence. Achievement is definitely related to intelligence, but I don't think achievement makes one better than another.

RodericDay 13y ago

you know, under this kind of racist mindset, I don't know why other races would just sit pretty and accommodate a system that arbitrarily puts caps on their own nature-given superior traits (you would say, strength and charisma) in favor of allowing other races' superior traits (i would say, lack of empathy and greed) dominate. i guess what I'm trying to say is that it'd be fun seeing you try to stand tall and pontificate about the importance of institutionalizing all sorts of unfounded, intuitionist beliefs about race- nevermind the fact that race is hard to determine in a large number of cases- to the detriment of individuals if society didn't put an arbitrary limitation on their exploitation of strength for personal gain no i guess what i'm trying to say is that usually racists are dweeby ugly little people that stand proud on the shoulders of the achievements of those who they perceive to be 'kin' (nevermind jewish/irish/italian/slav/etc. divisions from yesteryear), and that i wouldn't mind seeing you publicly made fun of and/or beat up because of it.

anaphor 13y ago

The effect a gene has on a trait isn't equal in all environments. It plays a larger part in groups of people who have very similar environmental conditions, conversely it plays a much smaller role in populations with a high variation in environmental conditions. We know that there is a fairly large variation in the environments of the groups you mentioned so it stands to reason the differences have very little to do with genetics. tl;dr go learn what heritability is.