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> There is nothing stopping Google, Facebook or Microsoft to act as Lavabit did. Nothing at all except for their own cowardice, malicious intents and disregard

by misnome 13y ago

> There is nothing stopping Google, Facebook or Microsoft to act as Lavabit did. Nothing at all except for their own cowardice, malicious intents and disregard for laws and their costumers. Try being CEO of Google, Facebook, or Microsoft, and suddenly deciding to close the entire business, and see how far you get before being removed.

antocv 13y ago
There are some causes that are worth being removed as CEO for. Lavabit founder finally is allowed to speak about this. It is enough if you threaten to shut down the business to make it known to the G-men that you wont play (the totalitarian) ball. We stopped SOPA/PIPA just with a partial blackout. But these companies didnt make a squeek. They are accomplices.
- sanderjd 13y ago
  > There are some causes that are worth being removed as CEO for. Yeah, but not if it's an empty gesture that doesn't change anything. Any CEO of Google both wouldn't be able to shut it down rather than comply, and would be removed for trying. It would accomplish nothing.
  - lightbritefight 13y ago
    So, you think the hyper publicity of a billion dollar tech darling CEO being ousted because he wanted to defend American liberties would accomplish nothing? The first thing it does is piss off one very wealthy person, whoever this CEO is. The second thing it does is piss off all of their very connected, wealthy friends. The third thing it does is serve as an egregious example of abuse to the public at large. Hmm. Wealthy, influential people with large public support? Nah, these are two things politicians don't concern themselves about.
conanbatt 13y ago
Im guessing that if the CEO of google had known of this, he has a big chip to fight it. If google threatened to shutdown or something, public outrage would destroy the NSA. But they don't have to get up to the CEO, they get the foreign sysadmin guy and tell him he cant tell his boss or his lawyer or he goes to jail and you got anything you want.

by misnome 13y ago

antocv 13y ago

There are some causes that are worth being removed as CEO for. Lavabit founder finally is allowed to speak about this. It is enough if you threaten to shut down the business to make it known to the G-men that you wont play (the totalitarian) ball. We stopped SOPA/PIPA just with a partial blackout. But these companies didnt make a squeek. They are accomplices.

sanderjd 13y ago
> There are some causes that are worth being removed as CEO for. Yeah, but not if it's an empty gesture that doesn't change anything. Any CEO of Google both wouldn't be able to shut it down rather than comply, and would be removed for trying. It would accomplish nothing.
- lightbritefight 13y ago
  So, you think the hyper publicity of a billion dollar tech darling CEO being ousted because he wanted to defend American liberties would accomplish nothing? The first thing it does is piss off one very wealthy person, whoever this CEO is. The second thing it does is piss off all of their very connected, wealthy friends. The third thing it does is serve as an egregious example of abuse to the public at large. Hmm. Wealthy, influential people with large public support? Nah, these are two things politicians don't concern themselves about.

conanbatt 13y ago

Im guessing that if the CEO of google had known of this, he has a big chip to fight it. If google threatened to shutdown or something, public outrage would destroy the NSA. But they don't have to get up to the CEO, they get the foreign sysadmin guy and tell him he cant tell his boss or his lawyer or he goes to jail and you got anything you want.