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Disclaimer: I find these pictures hilarious. Claimer: I was a fatass. I no longer show any particular respect or pity towards fat people. I've been fat most o
by Uberphallus 13y ago
Disclaimer: I find these pictures hilarious.
Claimer: I was a fatass.
I no longer show any particular respect or pity towards fat people. I've been fat most of my life, but no more.
It all started when a friend, well into the 400lb ~ 180kg, started losing weight like magic. Constant, steady weight loss. He was a fat guy in a family of fat people, the typical case of genetic blamery. I asked how he did it, he said he just counted calories and never broke the limit.
I did the same. I changed my food habits. It was hard in the sense that I've been "trained" otherwise; it's evident to me now that my mother transmitted me her fears of famine in the war. I always had to finish the plate, eat all I was given, and eat a bit more on my own whenever possible.
And the conclusion the very first day I started the control is that I just ate too much. Checked the calories, yeah, it's well added up. WTF, it's lunch and I'm already more than done! After a while I noticed things started expiring and get moldy since with my new diet couldn't keep up with my grocery list habits.
I lost weight mathematically. Kept doing exercise and bumped proteins not to lose muscle, and the average caloric deficit approached frighteningly my weight loss rate following the famous 9kcal/g of fat. Ate 20000kcal less this month? Weigh in and poof, 2.2kg gone.
From then I started analyzing other people's habits. And fat people just eat too much, very, very, very few of them are exceptions.
At this point I just don't understand why I should feel pity and display consideration to fat people while smokers (or meth addicts, or gamblers, or other sorts of compulsive behavior) are almost the worst thing in the world after the Third Reich. Saving some distances, it's the same league.
It's just an unhealthy habit, and the only difference is that it can be seen from outside. It's not a lost limb from an accident, something random that could happen to anyone and deserves pity instead of mockery. 99% of fat people just eat too much, they're just choosing to be, play the victim card too often and lack of education in regards to nutrition just perpetuates this. It's essentially the same as white trash, you can blame the environment but in the end it's you making the choice, but I have yet to see as many people defending juggalos as people defending fat people.
- kyro 13y agoBecause, you know, sometimes it's more complicated than what you eat, like when you have, you know, medical conditions like the one stated in, you know, the article. But congratulations on your weight loss and newfound abilities to generalize a condition that endocrinologists and geneticists have been researching for decades.
- Uberphallus 13y agoBecause, you know, I already stated that there are exceptions, only they're rather exceptional than the norm, as in US or Mexico. Geographically correlated obesity is explained by nutrition culture, not by geographically selective medical conditions.
- chris_wot 13y agoSeriously, I'd like you to back that statement with some hard data. Not because I necessarily disbelieve you (lifestyle is a HUGE cause of weight problems), but because I think you underestimate how many people suffer from medical disorders.
- Uberphallus 13y agohttp://www.health.harvard.edu/newsweek/Why-people-become-overweight.htm http://www.health.harvard.edu/newsweek/Why-people-become-ove... In particular these two paragraphs: Illnesses that affect weight A few illnesses that are characterized by an imbalance or an abnormality in your endocrine glands can also affect your weight. These include hypothyroidism (an underactive thyroid), polycystic ovarian syndrome, and certain unusual tumors of the pituitary gland, adrenal glands, or the pancreas. However, in the vast majority of people, these illnesses are not responsible for weight gain. Most are extremely rare. Hypothyroidism, which is the most common, is seldom the main reason for overweight or obesity. Treatment with thyroid hormone, while medically necessary, does not usually cause a significant weight reduction. Genetic disorders Obesity is also a symptom of some rare and complex disorders caused by genetic defects. These obesity syndromes usually appear in early childhood and are tied to several additional medical problems. One such disorder is Prader-Willi syndrome, a form of obesity associated with mild mental retardation that occurs in about 1 in 25,000 people and has been traced to abnormalities in a group of genes on chromosome 15. People with this disorder are unusually short and have primarily upper-body obesity. A less common disorder, Bardet-Biedl syndrome, is similar to Prader-Willi syndrome, but is caused by abnormalities in different genes. Several other rare genetic syndromes cause obesity, but account for only a tiny fraction of all weight disorders.
- chris_wot 13y agoThe problem you have is that while there are definitely people who really need to modify their lifestyle, there are a not so insignificant number of people who cannot reduce their weight. I think it's great you managed to lose weight (I fight a constant battle of the bulge myself with exercise and diet), but the author has an endocrine disorder called Polycystic Ovary Syndrome. My point is that when you lump all "fatties" into the same bucket, you also unfairly judge those with medical conditions. Given many of the fat people you see will be strangers, you'll probably never know if it is lifestyle or a medical disorder causing their excess weight. Food for thought?
- asdasf 13y agoPCOS causes insulin resistance. If she counted calories, she would lose weight. She is eating too much, just like the parent comment suggests. Having a very common disorder does not mean it causes obesity, nor does it prevent one from maintaining a healthy weight. It simply makes it more challenging, as she will tend to be hungry more.
- chris_wot 13y ago"She is eating too much" How on earth do you know that?!
- asdasf 13y agoBecause she is overweight. Contrary to popular belief, this is not actually complicated. There are no magic "get twice as much energy from your food" disorders. Disorders that make you more likely to overeat do not mean that you are not overeating.
- chris_wot 13y agoYou realise she has a thyroid problem also? That can cause weight gain. Diet doesn't help much in this case.
- cafard 13y agoThe question might be, why show consideration for anyone? You seem to have answered that question to your satisfaction, though.
- driverdan 13y agoI would also add that people who don't have a medical condition and who overeat cause the stigma people with medical conditions receive for being overweight. If most people who were overweight were so because of a medical condition you wouldn't see as much mockery of it.
- JoeAltmaier 13y agoThis was kind of his point - that you can't possibly be fat, if you don't eat too much. The fat doesn't come out of the air - it comes out of the stuff that goes into your mouth. So wire your jaw, get a backbone, do whatever it takes and you will absolutely NOT be fat. This is physics, not medicine nor psychology.
- dgesang 13y agoI was with you until ... > while smokers (or meth addicts, or gamblers, or other sorts of compulsive behavior) are almost the worst thing in the world after the Third Reich. which is just complete BS. There are way worse things in the world happening than that - every minute! (No, I don't smoke, gamble, do drugs or alike)
- marknutter 13y agoIt was sarcasm. They were saying that society sees smokers as people who are "worse thing in the world after the Third Reich," not that they actually believe that. The point they were making is that people view smokers in a bad light but hypocritically it's taboo to view the obese in a bad light.
- kaitai 13y agoWho is talking about pity? Why not just be polite? Is it so hard to be polite? Your argument is "I'm morally superior so I get to be a douche." Making the argument proves you're not morally superior, though.