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I'm the only one here that although thinks it is a cool presentation fells sad about how a triangle needs to be described as a very broken rectangle?

donutdan4114 13y ago
A lot about CSS is sad.
- jabo 13y ago
  A lot about CSS is sad indeed. But this demo actually does a good job of explaining a common CSS hack.
- est 13y ago
  yet we have no alternatives for CSS.
guynamedloren 13y ago
I disagree. It would be sad if a triangle couldn't be created in CSS at all. In fact, I think it's awesome that a triangle can be created from a "very broken rectangle", along with many other hacks that make this simple language quite powerful.
- crazygringo 13y ago
  I really hope you're being sarcastic. Sometimes these things have a way of whooshing over my head...
  - babby 13y ago
    Why would he be when it's mostly cross-browser? It means you dont need to draw the triangle and throw it into a .png or your sprite then deal with all that crap. You have a triangle that you can use to point at things AND you can modify the borders to change the size of that triangle on the fly. Yay.
    - solistice 13y ago
      I'm currently learning CSS, and it really all seems like dirty hacks to me. margin: o auto;? So I can't tell this to just horizontally center itself automatically? Don't get me wrong, I love dirty hacks, just not if they're forced onto me. I guess in a couple of weeks stockholm syndrome will set in, and I'll love it, but for the beginner, especially if you're moving there from either design (What, I need to hack things to get this typography display right?), or programming (What, I need to learn a whole bag of tricks to get the site to style properly?), CSS seems like that dirty pimp down the street to you. Yeah, he's fabulous, but he always wants you to do tricks for him.
      - icambron 13y ago
        I don't know any developers who like CSS. It's just a thing we have to do.
        amwelles 13y ago
        Really? I started out doing CSS, and I still love it 10 years later. Sure, it has its quirks, but now that we have tools like SASS, it makes CSS so much more fun all over again.
        icambron 13y ago
        I envy you, then, 'cause I freaking hate it. SASS and LESS provide really nice language improvements, but they don't fix all the crap about box models and positioning and polyfills and byzantine precedence rules and the necessity for silly hacks like this. It's just too complicated and painful to make things look the way you want them to look, which is the point of CSS. I've gotten pretty good at it and I've come to care a lot about how it works (e.g. this little visualization is a really nice demonstration), but this state of affairs saddens me; I wish I could concentrate on other stuff, and not how to make a goddamn triangle. (At some level of technical hair-splitting, this isn't per-se CSS's fault and is more general DOM crapiness, but that distinction is largely irrelevant. They're still problems I'm expected to solve with CSS.)

donutdan4114 13y ago

A lot about CSS is sad.

jabo 13y ago
A lot about CSS is sad indeed. But this demo actually does a good job of explaining a common CSS hack.
est 13y ago
yet we have no alternatives for CSS.

guynamedloren 13y ago

I disagree. It would be sad if a triangle couldn't be created in CSS at all. In fact, I think it's awesome that a triangle can be created from a "very broken rectangle", along with many other hacks that make this simple language quite powerful.

crazygringo 13y ago
I really hope you're being sarcastic. Sometimes these things have a way of whooshing over my head...
- babby 13y ago
  Why would he be when it's mostly cross-browser? It means you dont need to draw the triangle and throw it into a .png or your sprite then deal with all that crap. You have a triangle that you can use to point at things AND you can modify the borders to change the size of that triangle on the fly. Yay.
  - solistice 13y ago
    I'm currently learning CSS, and it really all seems like dirty hacks to me. margin: o auto;? So I can't tell this to just horizontally center itself automatically? Don't get me wrong, I love dirty hacks, just not if they're forced onto me. I guess in a couple of weeks stockholm syndrome will set in, and I'll love it, but for the beginner, especially if you're moving there from either design (What, I need to hack things to get this typography display right?), or programming (What, I need to learn a whole bag of tricks to get the site to style properly?), CSS seems like that dirty pimp down the street to you. Yeah, he's fabulous, but he always wants you to do tricks for him.
    - icambron 13y ago
      I don't know any developers who like CSS. It's just a thing we have to do.
      - amwelles 13y ago
        Really? I started out doing CSS, and I still love it 10 years later. Sure, it has its quirks, but now that we have tools like SASS, it makes CSS so much more fun all over again.
        icambron 13y ago
        I envy you, then, 'cause I freaking hate it. SASS and LESS provide really nice language improvements, but they don't fix all the crap about box models and positioning and polyfills and byzantine precedence rules and the necessity for silly hacks like this. It's just too complicated and painful to make things look the way you want them to look, which is the point of CSS. I've gotten pretty good at it and I've come to care a lot about how it works (e.g. this little visualization is a really nice demonstration), but this state of affairs saddens me; I wish I could concentrate on other stuff, and not how to make a goddamn triangle. (At some level of technical hair-splitting, this isn't per-se CSS's fault and is more general DOM crapiness, but that distinction is largely irrelevant. They're still problems I'm expected to solve with CSS.)