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You are absolutely right. The only alternative is to "stop using Facebook." The Facebook Terms of Service are an agreement that you can simply choose not to a

You are absolutely right. The only alternative is to "stop using Facebook." The Facebook Terms of Service are an agreement that you can simply choose not to accept. You have every right.

sseveran 13y ago
I actually took Facebook up on this option last fall. I have not missed facebook nor will I be back. I no longer have to worry about them tampering with my privacy like they did so many times. My life is definitely no worse not having a facebook account.
- MichaelApproved 13y ago
  I'm curious about people like you who feel this way. I understand you don't miss it or see value in Facebook but can you understand that other people see value in Facebook and that it enriches their social life?
  - sseveran 13y ago
    Sure. I don't feel the need to impose my lack of facebook on anyone else. I do mind when people act shocked when facebook throws its weight around to get what it wants. Its a walled garden in the fullest sense.
    - MichaelApproved 13y ago
      Thanks for the reply. I agree. At first, I got shocked when sites like FB and Twitter would reverse course from a developer friendly environment to a locked down one but now it's just an extension of the same story. FB doesn't care about your business, it cares about it's own business.
captainmuon 13y ago
I never accepted their agreements, and still I use Facebook (and many other sites). When I clicked on "accept", I lied. Usually, I still follow those agreements - for fear of legal actions or them deleting my accounts. But that doesn't mean that I recognize, accept, or internalize those terms. And "stop using Facebook" is just not a realistic option for me and many others, because it has become so important for me socially. The real solution IMHO is to regulate Facebook, and to either have its terms put under some form of democratic control, or to force them to do federation with third party services.
javajosh 13y ago
>The only alternative is to "stop using Facebook." Actually, no. That is one alternative. The other alternative (and the preferred one) would be for the courts to strike down as illegal Facebook's claim that they can limit what you do with your inbox on your computer for your personal use.

You are absolutely right. The only alternative is to "stop using Facebook." The Facebook Terms of Service are an agreement that you can simply choose not to accept. You have every right.

sseveran 13y ago

I actually took Facebook up on this option last fall. I have not missed facebook nor will I be back. I no longer have to worry about them tampering with my privacy like they did so many times. My life is definitely no worse not having a facebook account.

MichaelApproved 13y ago
I'm curious about people like you who feel this way. I understand you don't miss it or see value in Facebook but can you understand that other people see value in Facebook and that it enriches their social life?
- sseveran 13y ago
  Sure. I don't feel the need to impose my lack of facebook on anyone else. I do mind when people act shocked when facebook throws its weight around to get what it wants. Its a walled garden in the fullest sense.
  - MichaelApproved 13y ago
    Thanks for the reply. I agree. At first, I got shocked when sites like FB and Twitter would reverse course from a developer friendly environment to a locked down one but now it's just an extension of the same story. FB doesn't care about your business, it cares about it's own business.

captainmuon 13y ago

I never accepted their agreements, and still I use Facebook (and many other sites). When I clicked on "accept", I lied. Usually, I still follow those agreements - for fear of legal actions or them deleting my accounts. But that doesn't mean that I recognize, accept, or internalize those terms. And "stop using Facebook" is just not a realistic option for me and many others, because it has become so important for me socially. The real solution IMHO is to regulate Facebook, and to either have its terms put under some form of democratic control, or to force them to do federation with third party services.

javajosh 13y ago

>The only alternative is to "stop using Facebook." Actually, no. That is one alternative. The other alternative (and the preferred one) would be for the courts to strike down as illegal Facebook's claim that they can limit what you do with your inbox on your computer for your personal use.