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Also, yes, hiring is difficult. Do you really think you are learning how to do it properly by working at Big Corp first?

zhemao 13y ago
Well, you will at least learn how not to do it.
- thejulielogan 13y ago
  Not true. Rarely do you (a cog) see the hiring process (a different cog) used by your massive company (the machine). Especially when you're just out of college.
  - ewang1 13y ago
    Agreed. Ideally, you are an early employee at a startup where the founders had some previous successes. This way you get to see and take part in behind the scene processes as implemented by the experienced founders.
  - nostrademons 13y ago
    Hmm? I've done interviews for both of my past two employers. The first one was a startup, but the second one is Google. Do the big companies you work for not have people interview with employees in their particular role? It seems relatively common among my friends for them to be interviewing people just 1-2 years younger than them, either for internships or to fill the position they're about to be promoted out of.
    - thejulielogan 13y ago
      A startup isn't a massive company and Google is notoriously atypical with transparency and inclusiveness with hiring. Even so, just conducting an interview is far from learning about the thought process behind the actual act of hiring.
seiji 13y ago
There's value in learning from how others have screwed up the world. Learn what sins not to repeat. Sometimes you can only see the brokenness from inside the system. Some people are geniuses and can run billion dollar companies when they are 16. Other people can benefit from learning by doing for a few years. Everybody is different.
- UK-AL 13y ago
  More to do with chaos more than anything. Some businesses get lucky, others don't. There was study that showed that entrepreneurial success has extremely weak correlations with previous experience. Most successful entrepreneurs that I know were terrible at first and had little experience, but there companies still succeeded. I know experienced people that started companies, and did things right and failed. The difference was that things were in the right place at the right time.

zhemao 13y ago

Well, you will at least learn how not to do it.

thejulielogan 13y ago
Not true. Rarely do you (a cog) see the hiring process (a different cog) used by your massive company (the machine). Especially when you're just out of college.
- ewang1 13y ago
  Agreed. Ideally, you are an early employee at a startup where the founders had some previous successes. This way you get to see and take part in behind the scene processes as implemented by the experienced founders.
- nostrademons 13y ago
  Hmm? I've done interviews for both of my past two employers. The first one was a startup, but the second one is Google. Do the big companies you work for not have people interview with employees in their particular role? It seems relatively common among my friends for them to be interviewing people just 1-2 years younger than them, either for internships or to fill the position they're about to be promoted out of.
  - thejulielogan 13y ago
    A startup isn't a massive company and Google is notoriously atypical with transparency and inclusiveness with hiring. Even so, just conducting an interview is far from learning about the thought process behind the actual act of hiring.

seiji 13y ago

There's value in learning from how others have screwed up the world. Learn what sins not to repeat. Sometimes you can only see the brokenness from inside the system. Some people are geniuses and can run billion dollar companies when they are 16. Other people can benefit from learning by doing for a few years. Everybody is different.

UK-AL 13y ago
More to do with chaos more than anything. Some businesses get lucky, others don't. There was study that showed that entrepreneurial success has extremely weak correlations with previous experience. Most successful entrepreneurs that I know were terrible at first and had little experience, but there companies still succeeded. I know experienced people that started companies, and did things right and failed. The difference was that things were in the right place at the right time.