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Attacking Tor by passive analysis is one thing. Installing spyware, creating a botnet, and making the infection process quick and easy is another. There might b
by elwin 13y ago
Attacking Tor by passive analysis is one thing. Installing spyware, creating a botnet, and making the infection process quick and easy is another. There might be some justification for the former. The latter is too risky.
- tptacek 13y agoIt's not a "Manhattan Project" if it's within the capabilities of any decent-sized organized crime syndicate. People here have short memories. In the 1990s, teenaged hackers owned up the backbone.
- elwin 13y agoI called them analogous because of their potential effects and their development in secret by governments. I don't think a crime syndicate could do it so effectively; when the NSA "owns up the backbone", even if the operator discovers the intrusion, it stays owned.
- wglb 13y agoThe Manhattan project involved gobs of never-before-done of engineering, new understanding of physics. Owning up the backbones is simply a matter of scale and access. I don't think there is really an analogy here.
- blake8086 13y agoHeh, I wonder what places they work now.
- anologwintermut 13y agoActually, I'd say there is more justification for the later. Passive analysis nails everyone. It's a scary capability to have. Malware is a fundamentally targeted endeavor since known exploits get patched. The question of course, is are the targets legitimate?