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Why didn't you mention about the effects of a calcified pineal gland resulting from a Vitamin D and magnesium deficiency? Those are very common among the older

by da02 13y ago

Why didn't you mention about the effects of a calcified pineal gland resulting from a Vitamin D and magnesium deficiency? Those are very common among the older folk, resulting in poor sleep quality, poor immune system, even increased chance of heart attacks.

ChikkaChiChi 13y ago
...and how can this be fixed?
- steveplace 13y ago
  Take VitD + Fish Oil, then ZMA before bed.
- da02 13y ago
  5,000 - 10,000 i.u.: Vitamin D3 in the morning. 300 - 600 mg: magnesium citrate. My favorite brand is "30 Minutes of Sunshine" http://www.lifespannutrition.com/lsn/products.asp?itemnumber=393 http://www.lifespannutrition.com/lsn/products.asp?itemnumber... Bio-Tech Vitamin D3 is also very good: http://www.biotechpharmacal.com/ http://www.biotechpharmacal.com/
- mililani 13y ago
  Ignore the Vitamin D supplements that the other guys are suggesting and just go into the sun for 10 to 15 minutes a day.
thebooktocome 13y ago
It's an article on melatonin. Vitamin D and magnesium are discussed elsewhere ( http://www.gwern.net/Nootropics#vitamin-d http://www.gwern.net/Nootropics#vitamin-d , http://www.gwern.net/Nootropics#magnesium http://www.gwern.net/Nootropics#magnesium ), but gwern's focus isn't on old people because he's not an old person, so it's harder to self-experiment on them.
- da02 13y ago
  Thanks for pointing that out. It answered my question. Thanks also for the links.
magicalist 13y ago
Pineal gland calcification happens to almost everyone[1], whether you're vitamin D deficient or not. Not only is it completely normal, the health effects you mention have certainly not been shown to correlate with calcification. Honestly, the only people that bring this up are people still steadfast against fluoridation of water and people looking for an overly simplistic cause for alzheimer's. [1] http://radiology.rsna.org/content/142/3/659.full.pdf http://radiology.rsna.org/content/142/3/659.full.pdf
- da02 13y ago
  Your study focused on newborns to 20 yrs. It didn't consider the 30 to 70 crowd. Children and young adults usually don't have this problem since their bodies are rapidly growing and absorb large amounts of iron/calcium/etc to grow. Not only that, but your study observed extreme cases: "The majority of patients included in the study had a history of seizures or minor head injury." I never heard of calcification linked with fluoridation and Alzheimer's. So I wasn't suggesting that. Apparantly you've never given magnesium citrate to older family members and watched them get the best sleep in a long time. Moreover, an American diet filled with calcium + little magnesium + Americans taking calcium supplements for osteo-porosis + plus deficiency of various nutrients is bound to lead to various problems. Then again, I'm not a doctor. In fact, I don't even have a college degree. So feel free to ignore anything I say. If people want to be more concerned about vitamins/supplements rather than a diet rich in iron/HFCS + deadly FDA-approved drugs, so be it. I will take my chance with the vitamin fanatics like Linus Pauling (took mega doses of Vitamin C, died of cancer... at the age of 93). I will grant your wish. I will stop talking about vitamins and supplements on HN. However, for any crackpot vitamin fanatics out there, head over to http://knowledgeofhealth.com http://knowledgeofhealth.com That's one of the best sites I know and are very good at spotting mistakes in mediocre research proving that vitamins are deadly, cancer inducing toxins.

by da02 13y ago

ChikkaChiChi 13y ago

...and how can this be fixed?

steveplace 13y ago
Take VitD + Fish Oil, then ZMA before bed.
da02 13y ago
5,000 - 10,000 i.u.: Vitamin D3 in the morning. 300 - 600 mg: magnesium citrate. My favorite brand is "30 Minutes of Sunshine" http://www.lifespannutrition.com/lsn/products.asp?itemnumber=393 http://www.lifespannutrition.com/lsn/products.asp?itemnumber... Bio-Tech Vitamin D3 is also very good: http://www.biotechpharmacal.com/ http://www.biotechpharmacal.com/
mililani 13y ago
Ignore the Vitamin D supplements that the other guys are suggesting and just go into the sun for 10 to 15 minutes a day.

thebooktocome 13y ago

It's an article on melatonin. Vitamin D and magnesium are discussed elsewhere ( http://www.gwern.net/Nootropics#vitamin-d http://www.gwern.net/Nootropics#vitamin-d , http://www.gwern.net/Nootropics#magnesium http://www.gwern.net/Nootropics#magnesium ), but gwern's focus isn't on old people because he's not an old person, so it's harder to self-experiment on them.

da02 13y ago
Thanks for pointing that out. It answered my question. Thanks also for the links.

magicalist 13y ago

Pineal gland calcification happens to almost everyone[1], whether you're vitamin D deficient or not. Not only is it completely normal, the health effects you mention have certainly not been shown to correlate with calcification. Honestly, the only people that bring this up are people still steadfast against fluoridation of water and people looking for an overly simplistic cause for alzheimer's. [1] http://radiology.rsna.org/content/142/3/659.full.pdf http://radiology.rsna.org/content/142/3/659.full.pdf

da02 13y ago
Your study focused on newborns to 20 yrs. It didn't consider the 30 to 70 crowd. Children and young adults usually don't have this problem since their bodies are rapidly growing and absorb large amounts of iron/calcium/etc to grow. Not only that, but your study observed extreme cases: "The majority of patients included in the study had a history of seizures or minor head injury." I never heard of calcification linked with fluoridation and Alzheimer's. So I wasn't suggesting that. Apparantly you've never given magnesium citrate to older family members and watched them get the best sleep in a long time. Moreover, an American diet filled with calcium + little magnesium + Americans taking calcium supplements for osteo-porosis + plus deficiency of various nutrients is bound to lead to various problems. Then again, I'm not a doctor. In fact, I don't even have a college degree. So feel free to ignore anything I say. If people want to be more concerned about vitamins/supplements rather than a diet rich in iron/HFCS + deadly FDA-approved drugs, so be it. I will take my chance with the vitamin fanatics like Linus Pauling (took mega doses of Vitamin C, died of cancer... at the age of 93). I will grant your wish. I will stop talking about vitamins and supplements on HN. However, for any crackpot vitamin fanatics out there, head over to http://knowledgeofhealth.com http://knowledgeofhealth.com That's one of the best sites I know and are very good at spotting mistakes in mediocre research proving that vitamins are deadly, cancer inducing toxins.