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Webkit-based browsers are ubiquitous Are they? All the corporate guys I know that jumped on Chrome jumped to (..) IE10 now. Everyone else still uses Firefox a

Webkit-based browsers are ubiquitous Are they? All the corporate guys I know that jumped on Chrome jumped to (..) IE10 now. Everyone else still uses Firefox around me and wonders why someone would ever install a browser from an advertisement company. Have you used Firefox on Android? I've to admit that running Aurora is kind of hardcore (daily updates..?), but - wow. It's not just a really good browser, it's beautiful on top of that. I'm really looking forward to see devices with that OS nobody will care about - because all alternatives suck or died (WebOS was promising, so was Maemo/Meego. I'm also interested in sailfishOS). Your whole comment is weird. Your claims make no sense from this point and I have to disagree with literally every single line you wrote here. My hope is that FF/Mozilla _will_ pledge not to implement any of these idiotic ideas.

untog 13y ago
Webkit browsers are ubiquitous - they're on almost every smartphone sold these days, for a start. Everyone else still uses Firefox around me and wonders why someone would ever install a browser from an advertisement company. I have no idea who you have around you, but that is a very minority opinion. Chrome's usage keeps going up and Firefox usage goes down. I've used Firefox on Android (including Aurora) and it's fine. I don't see what makes it better than Chrome. Though I don't think your whole comment is "weird", I think that we both have different experiences.
- darklajid 13y ago
  I was mostly talking about the desktop, other people already commented on the 'forced' Webkit market share on mobile devices. Firefox around me: From technical people to guys that use mostly Excel, everyone here uses FF (apart from the IE10+ guys at work). Heck, I learned about some of these strange 'take FF, compile it for amd64 and call it "optimized"' FF derived browsers through people that .. are average not-into-computers-really joes. The only people that DO install Chrome around here (I know, I know, nothing but anecdotes to back this) are elderly family members that click that annoying huge 'You should really download our browser, it's teh best thing ever' button on Google - and get back to launch IE again the next day, because they didn't understand the whole thing, really. I don't want to take Chrome away from anyone, I just dislike the 'Meh, FF OS is useless anyway, their browser is becoming obsolete and they just meddle with politics' dismissal in the original comment. A 'desperate effort to become relevant again'? Why (and in what world) would they be irrelevant in the first place?
  - criley2 13y ago
    Anecdote: Literally no one in my office uses Firefox except when we need to copy paste a numbered list from a wikipage, and for some reason Firefox copy paste retains the numbering where nothing else does. Everyone uses Chrome here, and we're not a fancy new tech company or anything, we're a pretty conservative shop that's been around twice as long as many HNers have been alive.
code_duck 13y ago
Who are these nontechnical users who see Google as a ad company? I would think people who don't know about chrome would first think of google search, gmail, maps, google apps, google news, Android, Glass, and so forth. WebKit powers the highest percentage of browsers, more than any other rendering engine. Not saying these stats are authoritative, but they are typical and similar to my own sites: http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php

untog 13y ago

Webkit browsers are ubiquitous - they're on almost every smartphone sold these days, for a start. Everyone else still uses Firefox around me and wonders why someone would ever install a browser from an advertisement company. I have no idea who you have around you, but that is a very minority opinion. Chrome's usage keeps going up and Firefox usage goes down. I've used Firefox on Android (including Aurora) and it's fine. I don't see what makes it better than Chrome. Though I don't think your whole comment is "weird", I think that we both have different experiences.

darklajid 13y ago
I was mostly talking about the desktop, other people already commented on the 'forced' Webkit market share on mobile devices. Firefox around me: From technical people to guys that use mostly Excel, everyone here uses FF (apart from the IE10+ guys at work). Heck, I learned about some of these strange 'take FF, compile it for amd64 and call it "optimized"' FF derived browsers through people that .. are average not-into-computers-really joes. The only people that DO install Chrome around here (I know, I know, nothing but anecdotes to back this) are elderly family members that click that annoying huge 'You should really download our browser, it's teh best thing ever' button on Google - and get back to launch IE again the next day, because they didn't understand the whole thing, really. I don't want to take Chrome away from anyone, I just dislike the 'Meh, FF OS is useless anyway, their browser is becoming obsolete and they just meddle with politics' dismissal in the original comment. A 'desperate effort to become relevant again'? Why (and in what world) would they be irrelevant in the first place?
- criley2 13y ago
  Anecdote: Literally no one in my office uses Firefox except when we need to copy paste a numbered list from a wikipage, and for some reason Firefox copy paste retains the numbering where nothing else does. Everyone uses Chrome here, and we're not a fancy new tech company or anything, we're a pretty conservative shop that's been around twice as long as many HNers have been alive.

code_duck 13y ago

Who are these nontechnical users who see Google as a ad company? I would think people who don't know about chrome would first think of google search, gmail, maps, google apps, google news, Android, Glass, and so forth. WebKit powers the highest percentage of browsers, more than any other rendering engine. Not saying these stats are authoritative, but they are typical and similar to my own sites: http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php