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Things I wish could be fixed with 10.6 - Cut and paste a file (no you can't with the finder) - Maximize the windows - This annoying audio "pop" I can hear wh

by cake 17y ago

Things I wish could be fixed with 10.6 - Cut and paste a file (no you can't with the finder) - Maximize the windows - This annoying audio "pop" I can hear when my Macbook's line out is connected to a hifi system and no sound is playing.

jsonscripter 17y ago
That's actually eye-opening! I had no idea OS X lacked such basic features (and had such a "pop" bug).
gabrielroth 17y ago
You might or might not care, but your first two wishes can be achieved with third-party tools. Path Finder has cut-and-paste for files, and MercuryMover can resize windows to full-screen size. But the lack of development of the Finder is one of the worst things about OS X. It's been rewritten in Cocoa for Snow Leopard but with only a few minor new features. Hopefully the rewrite is a harbinger of bigger improvements in the next version. I'm just going to plug Path Finder one more time: it's completely replaced the Finder for me. Info at http://cocoatech.com http://cocoatech.com.
- cake 17y ago
  Thanks I'll have a look at Path Finder but I'm always reluctant to add any apps interfering with the Finder. I've already tried a few freebies to maximize the windows (Stoplight...), none of them would work at 100%.
- randallsquared 17y ago
  Completely replaced? It handles the Desktop and SMB UI as well? Those are the only things I really dislike about the Finder, actually.
  - gabrielroth 17y ago
    Yes, it does Desktop and networking. Try the demo and see if it meets your needs.
    - randallsquared 17y ago
      I shall; thanks.
    - ComputerGuru 17y ago
      The replacement desktop is quite good, but their "solution" for the tired SMB UI was to do away with it entirely :D You just get a list of servers. Selecting one presents you with a dialog box of available shares. Selecting one mounts it. No concept of "browsing" SMB networks exists in PF.
      - randallsquared 17y ago
        No concept of "browsing" SMB networks exists in PF. That's great, because that's never actually worked for me anyway; I always have to type the IP address I know the share is on. Even then, if I'm on wireless (but not on 100MB ethernet, oddly), I only get one use out of it: if I close that Finder window or don't use it for a bit, the share is closed to me in fact, even though it appears to still be there until I try to use it. The whole thing is terribly buggy and must be approached in an exact manner (FIRST "eject" any visible shares, THEN cmd-K to bring up the SMB window, type the IP (no hostnames, even though ping, etc works!), wait for about two minutes (literally), then immediately do the auth window when it comes up -- waiting a bit will require restarting the process -- and then immediately get or put whatever you need...). I used to blame Windows for this before the local Windows admin demonstrated that no local Windows machine had this problem. :) Sorry, a bunch of irritation just leaked out, there.
        ComputerGuru 17y ago
        Unfortunately, PF is even worse. After typing an IP address, the dialog disappears (it appears that the mounting of a share has terminated abruptly), and 2 minutes later (also literally) when the SMB server has been loaded, a new dialog is presented with the list of shares :-(
- ComputerGuru 17y ago
  I tried Path Finder and used it for maybe a month, but too many OS X applications are too tightly integrated with Finder and don't work with PF, such as Time Machine. Also, PF is buggy. The latest build wouldn't show mounted DMG images :S I'm hoping that the new Finder brings some improvements, we'll see.
zach 17y ago
Are the first two items things you miss from Windows? They were for me, but I wouldn't want them added to 10.6...
- cake 17y ago
  The cut-and-paste thing is really a basic feature for me and I think it was working in Mac Os 8+, we already have a copy-and-paste. I can't understand why they couldn't implement the cut-and-paste. I don't understand how you can't miss it, unless you "mv" everything. The maximize thing is not entirely Windows, I remember seeing it on some Linux distros. I hate to see the clutter behind my windows, especially if I have a browser open on some webpage with a blinking ad. I find it much harder to focus on the app on which I'm supposed to work if I have other stuff behind.
  - larrykubin 17y ago
    I feel the same way about maximize. If you complain about it, someone who defends every Apple decision will say "why would you want to do that? It doesn't make sense." http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=600389 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=600389 Anyway, I downloaded something called Right Zoom that changes the behavior of the zoom button (which I find practically useless). http://www.blazingtools.com/downloads.html http://www.blazingtools.com/downloads.html
    - nixme 17y ago
      If you'd rather not use a proprietary program from a company that makes keyloggers, check out WrongZoom (downloadable link in the readme): http://github.com/spicyj/wrongzoom/tree/master http://github.com/spicyj/wrongzoom/tree/master
    - DLWormwood 17y ago
      I don't defend every Apple decision... but this is more a case of history with Apple creating a windowing paradigm before Microsoft did... http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/8pejm/i_love_my_mac_as_much_as_the_next_guy_but/c0a0rem http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/8pejm/i_love_my_mac_a...
jasongullickson 17y ago
I have to say I've used osx for years and I've never noticed the first two (and I use Windows every weekday as well). The third one sounds like it sucks though.
GHFigs 17y ago
The first two work as intended. They may not fit your preference, but to "fix" them you would have to convince the authors that they are broken. The third is not a software problem.
potatolicious 17y ago
Add: - Breadcrumb in Finder Windows. This is uber-annoying. - Revamped open/save dialogs. What do you mean I can't right click to rename a folder in the save dialog?! What do you mean I can't search for a file in this folder? Sadly the Finder has nothing on Windows Explorer.
- xenophanes 17y ago
  finder has breadcrumbs. cmd-click the folder name on the top of the window. or do cmd-up-arrow.
  - Oompa 17y ago
    That's not really a breadcrumb bar, it's the ability to go up a folder…
    - xenophanes 17y ago
      you're saying that cmd-up-arrow sucks because you want cmd-click? fine. use cmd-click to see more than one at a time. and wait a second, it's also showing, constantly, at the bottom of my finder windows. so, look through the preferences and enable that. if you mean something other than every folder in the path to the current folder by breadcrumbs then you have to clarify.
- drewr 17y ago
  Breadcrumbs in 10.5 are as easy as View -> Show Path Bar, or do you mean something else?
- ellyagg 17y ago
  Personally, I find column view to be light-years ahead of Explorer, alone.
  - jamesbritt 17y ago
    Wow. I find it near useless.
jsz0 17y ago
It's funny you say that because anytime I use Windows or Linux I am wishing for a Zoom button. It's quite rare for me to ever need any window to completely fill my screen. As someone else did mention the biggest issue with OSX's Zoom button is consistency but fundamentally I think it's a far better way to deal with window management. The best solution might be for Apple to simply offer it as an easily accessible configuration option in System Preferences. There's really no wrong or right way -- it's just what you're used to and how willing you are to change habits.

by cake 17y ago

jsonscripter 17y ago

That's actually eye-opening! I had no idea OS X lacked such basic features (and had such a "pop" bug).

gabrielroth 17y ago

You might or might not care, but your first two wishes can be achieved with third-party tools. Path Finder has cut-and-paste for files, and MercuryMover can resize windows to full-screen size. But the lack of development of the Finder is one of the worst things about OS X. It's been rewritten in Cocoa for Snow Leopard but with only a few minor new features. Hopefully the rewrite is a harbinger of bigger improvements in the next version. I'm just going to plug Path Finder one more time: it's completely replaced the Finder for me. Info at http://cocoatech.com http://cocoatech.com.

cake 17y ago
Thanks I'll have a look at Path Finder but I'm always reluctant to add any apps interfering with the Finder. I've already tried a few freebies to maximize the windows (Stoplight...), none of them would work at 100%.
randallsquared 17y ago
Completely replaced? It handles the Desktop and SMB UI as well? Those are the only things I really dislike about the Finder, actually.
- gabrielroth 17y ago
  Yes, it does Desktop and networking. Try the demo and see if it meets your needs.
  - randallsquared 17y ago
    I shall; thanks.
  - ComputerGuru 17y ago
    The replacement desktop is quite good, but their "solution" for the tired SMB UI was to do away with it entirely :D You just get a list of servers. Selecting one presents you with a dialog box of available shares. Selecting one mounts it. No concept of "browsing" SMB networks exists in PF.
    - randallsquared 17y ago
      No concept of "browsing" SMB networks exists in PF. That's great, because that's never actually worked for me anyway; I always have to type the IP address I know the share is on. Even then, if I'm on wireless (but not on 100MB ethernet, oddly), I only get one use out of it: if I close that Finder window or don't use it for a bit, the share is closed to me in fact, even though it appears to still be there until I try to use it. The whole thing is terribly buggy and must be approached in an exact manner (FIRST "eject" any visible shares, THEN cmd-K to bring up the SMB window, type the IP (no hostnames, even though ping, etc works!), wait for about two minutes (literally), then immediately do the auth window when it comes up -- waiting a bit will require restarting the process -- and then immediately get or put whatever you need...). I used to blame Windows for this before the local Windows admin demonstrated that no local Windows machine had this problem. :) Sorry, a bunch of irritation just leaked out, there.
      - ComputerGuru 17y ago
        Unfortunately, PF is even worse. After typing an IP address, the dialog disappears (it appears that the mounting of a share has terminated abruptly), and 2 minutes later (also literally) when the SMB server has been loaded, a new dialog is presented with the list of shares :-(
ComputerGuru 17y ago
I tried Path Finder and used it for maybe a month, but too many OS X applications are too tightly integrated with Finder and don't work with PF, such as Time Machine. Also, PF is buggy. The latest build wouldn't show mounted DMG images :S I'm hoping that the new Finder brings some improvements, we'll see.

zach 17y ago

Are the first two items things you miss from Windows? They were for me, but I wouldn't want them added to 10.6...

cake 17y ago
The cut-and-paste thing is really a basic feature for me and I think it was working in Mac Os 8+, we already have a copy-and-paste. I can't understand why they couldn't implement the cut-and-paste. I don't understand how you can't miss it, unless you "mv" everything. The maximize thing is not entirely Windows, I remember seeing it on some Linux distros. I hate to see the clutter behind my windows, especially if I have a browser open on some webpage with a blinking ad. I find it much harder to focus on the app on which I'm supposed to work if I have other stuff behind.
- larrykubin 17y ago
  I feel the same way about maximize. If you complain about it, someone who defends every Apple decision will say "why would you want to do that? It doesn't make sense." http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=600389 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=600389 Anyway, I downloaded something called Right Zoom that changes the behavior of the zoom button (which I find practically useless). http://www.blazingtools.com/downloads.html http://www.blazingtools.com/downloads.html
  - nixme 17y ago
    If you'd rather not use a proprietary program from a company that makes keyloggers, check out WrongZoom (downloadable link in the readme): http://github.com/spicyj/wrongzoom/tree/master http://github.com/spicyj/wrongzoom/tree/master
  - DLWormwood 17y ago
    I don't defend every Apple decision... but this is more a case of history with Apple creating a windowing paradigm before Microsoft did... http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/8pejm/i_love_my_mac_as_much_as_the_next_guy_but/c0a0rem http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/8pejm/i_love_my_mac_a...

jasongullickson 17y ago

I have to say I've used osx for years and I've never noticed the first two (and I use Windows every weekday as well). The third one sounds like it sucks though.

GHFigs 17y ago

The first two work as intended. They may not fit your preference, but to "fix" them you would have to convince the authors that they are broken. The third is not a software problem.

potatolicious 17y ago

Add: - Breadcrumb in Finder Windows. This is uber-annoying. - Revamped open/save dialogs. What do you mean I can't right click to rename a folder in the save dialog?! What do you mean I can't search for a file in this folder? Sadly the Finder has nothing on Windows Explorer.

xenophanes 17y ago
finder has breadcrumbs. cmd-click the folder name on the top of the window. or do cmd-up-arrow.
- Oompa 17y ago
  That's not really a breadcrumb bar, it's the ability to go up a folder…
  - xenophanes 17y ago
    you're saying that cmd-up-arrow sucks because you want cmd-click? fine. use cmd-click to see more than one at a time. and wait a second, it's also showing, constantly, at the bottom of my finder windows. so, look through the preferences and enable that. if you mean something other than every folder in the path to the current folder by breadcrumbs then you have to clarify.
drewr 17y ago
Breadcrumbs in 10.5 are as easy as View -> Show Path Bar, or do you mean something else?
ellyagg 17y ago
Personally, I find column view to be light-years ahead of Explorer, alone.
- jamesbritt 17y ago
  Wow. I find it near useless.

jsz0 17y ago

It's funny you say that because anytime I use Windows or Linux I am wishing for a Zoom button. It's quite rare for me to ever need any window to completely fill my screen. As someone else did mention the biggest issue with OSX's Zoom button is consistency but fundamentally I think it's a far better way to deal with window management. The best solution might be for Apple to simply offer it as an easily accessible configuration option in System Preferences. There's really no wrong or right way -- it's just what you're used to and how willing you are to change habits.