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Even if Apple's patents were invalidated it would do nothing to excuse what you are calling 'sneaky tactics' by Samsung. What they are accused of is deeply ill

by gibwell 13y ago

Even if Apple's patents were invalidated it would do nothing to excuse what you are calling 'sneaky tactics' by Samsung. What they are accused of is deeply illegal, and that isn't going to change. Apple hasn't done anything illegal and their patents aren't 'fake'. If they were fake, why wouldn't Samsung have had them reviewed? It seems as though you are trying to defend Samsung by smearing Apple.

iamshs 13y ago
shmerl has been on HN for 2 years and amassed ~2K karma. I assume those other comments were not as gibberish as the ones on this story.
shmerl 13y ago
In this case, Apple's patents are fake, because there is clear prior art. Samsung tried to use that defense, but the jury was really weird on that one. No idea why they aren't proceeding with invalidating them further. I'm not defending Samsung. They both are worth each other here. Apple started this idiocy first though - no one asked them to be patent jerks to begin with. When one crook is being bitten by another crook in a crooked fashion, because the first did something crooked to the second first, then the first one should look in a mirror, before pointing fingers to the second.
- gibwell 13y ago
  If the jury didn't agree that the prior art was clear, then the prior art obviously was not clear. So really you're just saying that you don't agree with the jury. You also seem to be saying that Samsung should be allowed to abuse the court process as a way to steal secrets because Apple sued them, even though Apple won the case. I'm sorry, but you are defending Samsung.
  - shmerl 13y ago
    The jury was incompetent. Prior art is there. Jury dismissed it with completely invalid arguments which demonstrated that they had no clue what they were dealing with (patent law). And jury didn't even follow guidelines set for them for this case (which were intended to make them understand application of patent law better). Allowed? I didn't say anything about allowed.
    - gibwell 13y ago
      You seem to claim to understand the law better than the judge.
      - shmerl 13y ago
        The judge pointed out that jury didn't follow the guidelines. It seems that you didn't really follow the case. Anyway, Samsung should invalidate these patents for good. Otherwise Apple will use them against someone else next time.

by gibwell 13y ago

iamshs 13y ago

shmerl has been on HN for 2 years and amassed ~2K karma. I assume those other comments were not as gibberish as the ones on this story.

shmerl 13y ago

In this case, Apple's patents are fake, because there is clear prior art. Samsung tried to use that defense, but the jury was really weird on that one. No idea why they aren't proceeding with invalidating them further. I'm not defending Samsung. They both are worth each other here. Apple started this idiocy first though - no one asked them to be patent jerks to begin with. When one crook is being bitten by another crook in a crooked fashion, because the first did something crooked to the second first, then the first one should look in a mirror, before pointing fingers to the second.

gibwell 13y ago
If the jury didn't agree that the prior art was clear, then the prior art obviously was not clear. So really you're just saying that you don't agree with the jury. You also seem to be saying that Samsung should be allowed to abuse the court process as a way to steal secrets because Apple sued them, even though Apple won the case. I'm sorry, but you are defending Samsung.
- shmerl 13y ago
  The jury was incompetent. Prior art is there. Jury dismissed it with completely invalid arguments which demonstrated that they had no clue what they were dealing with (patent law). And jury didn't even follow guidelines set for them for this case (which were intended to make them understand application of patent law better). Allowed? I didn't say anything about allowed.
  - gibwell 13y ago
    You seem to claim to understand the law better than the judge.
    - shmerl 13y ago
      The judge pointed out that jury didn't follow the guidelines. It seems that you didn't really follow the case. Anyway, Samsung should invalidate these patents for good. Otherwise Apple will use them against someone else next time.