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Iran's Cyberwarfare Commander Assassinated
- swamp40 13y ago> said to be found with two bullet wounds near his heart. Certainly sounds like Mossad. Fum, Fum. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM4h4TsEDqE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM4h4TsEDqE
- bandy 13y agoAnd we know that he wasn't taken out by another faction within Iran because…? I'm reminded of the purges that Stalin was so fond of.
- samstave 13y agoMossad + NSA == certain death.
- devx 13y agoI for one can't wait for this reveal: http://rt.com/usa/nsa-assassination-leaks-greenwald-514/ http://rt.com/usa/nsa-assassination-leaks-greenwald-514/
- jessaustin 13y agoI predict that the chucklehead faction on HN will be torn between two responses: "these are lies" and "this isn't news these programs have been in place forever everybody knows about it".
- krapp 13y agoMeanwhile the libertarians and liberals will fight over "this is just the inevitable consequence of the monopoly on violence that the state represents" and "clearly this means the government must have killed Aaron Swartz and Steve Jobs and that it's only a matter of time before the murder-squads come after you."
- jessaustin 13y agoAs silly as those two propositions might seem, at least they don't contradict each other!
- ianstallings 13y agoThat statement really pisses me off. I'm a conservative. Am I going to say that? Predict me, since you're so good at it. What's coming next from me? Edit: The OP changed their post. It said "conservative" not chucklehead.
- jessaustin 13y agoI don't know. Maybe you'll hop on one foot while shaking your fist and frowning? Is there an emoticon for that?
- ianstallings 13y agoWhy don't you go back under your bridge troll. http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- pekk 13y agoSome things are lies, some are unverifiable, and other things have been in place forever and were either known or easily guessable. Since these are three disjoint classes of things, this is not self-contradictory.
- jessaustin 13y ago...three disjoint classes of things... I was referring specifically to the alleged assassination program. Into which class does that fall?
- JackFr 13y agoIt's a matter of record of record that President Obama has targeted and killed American citizens without trial or warrant. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki It would not surprise me if there were more.
- canttestthis 13y agoI would like examples of Obama authorizing the assassination of journalists/activists/etc., and not someone who's been called the "bin Laden of the Internet". Its much easier to be outraged about extrajudicial killings when the target isn't linked to Al Qaeda.
- nikcub 13y agoal-Alwaki's 16 year old son was also killed in a drone strike. He was a US citizen[1] Pakistani report shows that in 70 drone strikes between '06 and '09 94 children were killed [2] [1] http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/18/opinion/the-drone-that-killed-my-grandson.html http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/18/opinion/the-drone-that-kil... [2] http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/blog/2013/07/22/get-the-data-the-pakistan-governments-secret-document/ http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/blog/2013/07/22/get-the...
- berntb 13y agoI thought that for a military bombing weapon, the drones have very good statistics for civilian causalities? (If they should be used to target the people they are targeting is another question.) (Also, terrorists that know they have a target painted on top of their head are not the responsible part, if kids they spend time with die?) About Pakistani statistics: Note that Pakistani politicians approving of drones (an unofficial deal [about drones, with USA] was leaked iirc?) are targeted for murder. So public condemnations are not worth much there. Anyway, afaik Pakistan do lots of cross border terror attacks on Afghanistan and India, then lie consistently. Pakistani claims about this subject just aren't trustworthy.
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- jessaustin 13y agoMore informative source from which this is cribbed: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/10350285/Iranian-cyber-warfare-commander-shot-dead-in-suspected-assassination.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/10...
- guelo 13y agoIsrael is a dangerous rogue state. edit: for spelling.
- znowi 13y agoYes. Israel's tactics is generally to incite conflict, pull in the west countries (mainly the US), thus solving their geopolitical goals. You can in fact trace the birth of modern terrorism right back to establishment of the Israeli state in the Middle East. The moment the US stops supporting Israel will mark the end of War on Terror.
- patrickaljord 13y agoTop thread comment is a blank anti-Israel comment with no arguments. Congrats guys, you've officially turned HN into a mix of r/politics and r/worldnews.
- tptacek 13y agoZionist scum.
- mikeyouse 13y agoIsrael is a dangerous rouge state. Slightly red-pinkish?
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- afarrell 13y agoWhen you play the game of drones, you win... or you die.
- redcircle 13y agoIf this was state sponsored, is it a crime or an act of war?
- pekk 13y agoIs Iran's intervention in Syria a crime or an act of war?
- ihsw 13y agoDoes it matter? They have no recourse.
- nathanm412 13y agoIt could be grounds for either. Whether an act is grounds for war doesn't necessarily mean that the country is in a position to strike back. If Israel did this, Iran probably couldn't afford to strike back militarily without incurring the full wrath of Israel's military. They'd also have to be extremely lucky to not have the US get involved as well.
- fiatmoney 13y agoAn "act of war" is anything a state decides to go to war over. Given that these assassinations have been going on for several years, evidently not.
- redcircle 13y agoThen perhaps there is a third category: an act of terror.
- JabavuAdams 13y agoWhile the act may induce terror, it's just confusing to lump it in with attacks against civilians. Attacks against military or para-military or chain of command elements are different because people can choose not to join up or to engage in those professions. Intelligence agencies have been sending "messages" to one another for decades. It's a known hazard of the job.
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- mladenkovacevic 13y agoYou know I read about this story this morning, and it actually contained Mojtaba Ahmadi's official title which I can't remember right now but it certainly wasn't "cyberwarfare czar". That makes him sound like some fuckin' cocaine-fueled warlord demanding ransoms out of a cave, and not a government official.
- pekk 13y agoGovernment officials in the US are often called czars. It's not an item of propaganda, it's just an informal way of talking in English.
- mladenkovacevic 13y agoOh ok. Yeah calling him a czar makes him sound super independent and unpredictable. Then again in Canada we have the ombudsmen.
- afarrell 13y agoIsn't ombudsman someone in charge of talking to external stakeholders and dealing with their problems?
- mladenkovacevic 13y agoAn ombudsman, in Canada at least, is an independent official appointed to oversee and investigate the provincial government based on feedback from the public. Every province has their own ombudsman.
- revelation 13y agoYou will be delighted to know theres a "drug czar" in the US. It sounded weird to me, too.
- blah32497 13y agoI think the idea behind the "czar" title is that the official has more authority to change the underlying organization and it lets the government pretend it's not a giant bureaucracy.
- rplacd 13y agoAnd just in time, too, for a good chance at rapprochement - the Salafists and Israel's conservative faction may see face-to-face on foreign policy for once.