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Isn't Apple about to release comparable native functionality into 10.9 in a few weeks?

by pain_perdu 13y ago

cytzol 13y ago
Yes, but Apple's functionality only supports Safari on Apple devices. 1Password supports other browsers and Windows.
- pain_perdu 13y ago
  excellent point, I was unaware of that.
- eknkc 13y ago
  Haven't tried Mavericks beta. Is there a management interface for saved passwords or is it just the plain old Keychain Access utility? All this "iCloud Keychain" hype looks like just a sync functionality on top of current implementation.
  - itafroma 13y ago
    > Is there a management interface for saved passwords or is it just the plain old Keychain Access utility? > All this "iCloud Keychain" hype looks like just a sync functionality on top of current implementation. There's Keychain Access and a preference pane in Safari for web passwords. It is exactly a sync feature added to the keychain implementation that exists in Mountain Lion and earlier.
- r00fus 13y ago
  Yes, Apple's functionality seems best for casual users (ie, my parents) who generally only use safari on their ipads and mac. iCloud Keychain is a better experience on iOS because only Apple can extend Safari - If you're using 1Password on iOS, you can't do the equivalent of "CMD+\" - you have to use the launch the 1P app - which breaks the workflow. I don't see me moving away from 1Password anytime soon - though the ability to have multiple agile keychains in a single 1P session would have me pulling out my wallet - been waiting for that for awhile.
  - wandermatt 13y ago
    You can use a Safari bookmarklet to open the current page in 1Password app, to minimize the disruption in your workflow, see http://www.macstories.net/links/1password-4-1/ http://www.macstories.net/links/1password-4-1/
tommi 13y ago
Good point and that is probably the reason for releasing 1Password 4 now. I have paid for 1Password for too many times and I'm jumping off the wagon now.
- sandipc 13y ago
  it's a free update if you bought 1Password 3 from the Mac app store
  - tommi 13y ago
    Unfortunately I paid them directly so 1Password 4 for the desktop would cost me $25.
    - danieldk 13y ago
      I have purchased 1Password 3 in 2010. So I used it three years without any upgrade costs. For an application that I use everyday, it's certainly worth $25. Although, the pricing is steep for other reasons: I have recommended many non-techies to use 1Password, but they would never spend $50 on a password manager. I won't purchase the upgrade to 4 immediately. 1Password 3 is still working fine. Shared vaults look to be a nice feature, but other than that I don't think I need any of the changes. Besides that, I'd like to see how good the iCloud Keychain will work in Mavericks/iOS (although it is not a cross-platform solution, Agilebits' Windows and Windows Phone apps haven't been stellar either).
    - e1ven 13y ago
      If you bought in 2013, it is still free. Paid upgrades aren't a terrible thing. They allow you to continue to fund development on improved/better versions. Without that, you risk ending up up like Sparrow or TextMate.

Isn't Apple about to release comparable native functionality into 10.9 in a few weeks?

cytzol 13y ago

Yes, but Apple's functionality only supports Safari on Apple devices. 1Password supports other browsers and Windows.

pain_perdu 13y ago
excellent point, I was unaware of that.
eknkc 13y ago
Haven't tried Mavericks beta. Is there a management interface for saved passwords or is it just the plain old Keychain Access utility? All this "iCloud Keychain" hype looks like just a sync functionality on top of current implementation.
- itafroma 13y ago
  > Is there a management interface for saved passwords or is it just the plain old Keychain Access utility? > All this "iCloud Keychain" hype looks like just a sync functionality on top of current implementation. There's Keychain Access and a preference pane in Safari for web passwords. It is exactly a sync feature added to the keychain implementation that exists in Mountain Lion and earlier.
r00fus 13y ago
Yes, Apple's functionality seems best for casual users (ie, my parents) who generally only use safari on their ipads and mac. iCloud Keychain is a better experience on iOS because only Apple can extend Safari - If you're using 1Password on iOS, you can't do the equivalent of "CMD+\" - you have to use the launch the 1P app - which breaks the workflow. I don't see me moving away from 1Password anytime soon - though the ability to have multiple agile keychains in a single 1P session would have me pulling out my wallet - been waiting for that for awhile.
- wandermatt 13y ago
  You can use a Safari bookmarklet to open the current page in 1Password app, to minimize the disruption in your workflow, see http://www.macstories.net/links/1password-4-1/ http://www.macstories.net/links/1password-4-1/

tommi 13y ago

Good point and that is probably the reason for releasing 1Password 4 now. I have paid for 1Password for too many times and I'm jumping off the wagon now.

sandipc 13y ago
it's a free update if you bought 1Password 3 from the Mac app store
- tommi 13y ago
  Unfortunately I paid them directly so 1Password 4 for the desktop would cost me $25.
  - danieldk 13y ago
    I have purchased 1Password 3 in 2010. So I used it three years without any upgrade costs. For an application that I use everyday, it's certainly worth $25. Although, the pricing is steep for other reasons: I have recommended many non-techies to use 1Password, but they would never spend $50 on a password manager. I won't purchase the upgrade to 4 immediately. 1Password 3 is still working fine. Shared vaults look to be a nice feature, but other than that I don't think I need any of the changes. Besides that, I'd like to see how good the iCloud Keychain will work in Mavericks/iOS (although it is not a cross-platform solution, Agilebits' Windows and Windows Phone apps haven't been stellar either).
  - e1ven 13y ago
    If you bought in 2013, it is still free. Paid upgrades aren't a terrible thing. They allow you to continue to fund development on improved/better versions. Without that, you risk ending up up like Sparrow or TextMate.