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Reading the alleged DPR dialog I can't help thinking this guy thought he was some Walter White character. Or maybe I just have Breaking Bad on the brain...

jcampbell1 13y ago
It is more like the making of Breaking Bad. The FBI staged torture photos of DPR's ex-employee. I imagine Jesse's makeup artist went from his day job to the FBI. What is funny, is DPR got away with the murder for hire plot. They tried to set him up by making him do a bank transfer. After having seen the photo's, the undercover agent thought he would send the money non-anonymously, but DPR used some now defunct Australian anonymous wire service. It took the FBI several months to locate him.
- freyr 13y ago
  > After having seen the photo's, the undercover agent thought he would send the money non-anonymously "Oh hey, you're a violent thug who murders people for money? I'm a random guy running a billion dollar underground drug marketplace. Here's my contact info..." After seeing the photos, I'd be absolutely sure to send the money anonymously.
  - jcampbell1 13y ago
    You are right. I was thinking of a payment that would be untraceable by a hitman, but traceable by the FBI. The payment method he used was not traceable by either.
jval 13y ago
The Feds were waiting to find out what happened to Walter White before they decided what to do with DPR.. timing is impeccable.
- ballard 13y ago
  It makes one wonder how the conversation went about scheduling this. Are pop culture events a consideration to get favorable results from judges and grand juries?
  - ryanmolden 13y ago
    As someone that served on a federal grand jury, no. Well, at least not vocally, I presume people internally weren't basing their votes on pop culture but saying something else out loud. Then again the strength of most cases that make it to the grand jury, from what I saw, are fairly strong, and the burden of proof is lower (since indictment != conviction). If the case is weak the ADA's wouldn't even bring it to us.
    - ballard 13y ago
      Perhaps I wasn't clear: gambits by the DA or defense based on timing of world / cultural events (beyond holidays, weekends and lunch) to garner a favorable state-of-mind of adjudicators.
      - ryanmolden 13y ago
        Grand juries sit for 18 months, so that would be one hell of a long game.
        ballard 13y ago
        If the stakes are high enough, ...
        ryanmolden 13y ago
        There is, iirc, also a time limit between when an investigation begins and one an indictment is filed. The idea being to prevent the government from simply having someone under investigation in perpetuity. I suppose the ADAs COULD try and time the indictment against unrelated pop-culture events, but in my experience it seems so unlikely as to be mostly the stuff of movies. Delays more frequently where due to problems getting financial records or untangling complex webs of them, problems locating willing witnesses, problems with witness intimidation, etc..
mortenjorck 13y ago
Combining this with the other alleged hit dialog, it paints a picture of a rising criminal's initially uneasy embrace of killing, followed later by a scene where he's literally haggling with a hit man over the market rate for murder. It definitely shares the show's theme of gradual moral acclimation.

jcampbell1 13y ago

It is more like the making of Breaking Bad. The FBI staged torture photos of DPR's ex-employee. I imagine Jesse's makeup artist went from his day job to the FBI. What is funny, is DPR got away with the murder for hire plot. They tried to set him up by making him do a bank transfer. After having seen the photo's, the undercover agent thought he would send the money non-anonymously, but DPR used some now defunct Australian anonymous wire service. It took the FBI several months to locate him.

freyr 13y ago
> After having seen the photo's, the undercover agent thought he would send the money non-anonymously "Oh hey, you're a violent thug who murders people for money? I'm a random guy running a billion dollar underground drug marketplace. Here's my contact info..." After seeing the photos, I'd be absolutely sure to send the money anonymously.
- jcampbell1 13y ago
  You are right. I was thinking of a payment that would be untraceable by a hitman, but traceable by the FBI. The payment method he used was not traceable by either.

jval 13y ago

The Feds were waiting to find out what happened to Walter White before they decided what to do with DPR.. timing is impeccable.

ballard 13y ago
It makes one wonder how the conversation went about scheduling this. Are pop culture events a consideration to get favorable results from judges and grand juries?
- ryanmolden 13y ago
  As someone that served on a federal grand jury, no. Well, at least not vocally, I presume people internally weren't basing their votes on pop culture but saying something else out loud. Then again the strength of most cases that make it to the grand jury, from what I saw, are fairly strong, and the burden of proof is lower (since indictment != conviction). If the case is weak the ADA's wouldn't even bring it to us.
  - ballard 13y ago
    Perhaps I wasn't clear: gambits by the DA or defense based on timing of world / cultural events (beyond holidays, weekends and lunch) to garner a favorable state-of-mind of adjudicators.
    - ryanmolden 13y ago
      Grand juries sit for 18 months, so that would be one hell of a long game.
      - ballard 13y ago
        If the stakes are high enough, ...
        ryanmolden 13y ago
        There is, iirc, also a time limit between when an investigation begins and one an indictment is filed. The idea being to prevent the government from simply having someone under investigation in perpetuity. I suppose the ADAs COULD try and time the indictment against unrelated pop-culture events, but in my experience it seems so unlikely as to be mostly the stuff of movies. Delays more frequently where due to problems getting financial records or untangling complex webs of them, problems locating willing witnesses, problems with witness intimidation, etc..

mortenjorck 13y ago

Combining this with the other alleged hit dialog, it paints a picture of a rising criminal's initially uneasy embrace of killing, followed later by a scene where he's literally haggling with a hit man over the market rate for murder. It definitely shares the show's theme of gradual moral acclimation.