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It sort of is. If I say George Bush is stupid, and you reply that I'm stupid, you haven't really refuted my point. Though maybe if I say George Bush should recy
by tedsanders 13y ago
It sort of is. If I say George Bush is stupid, and you reply that I'm stupid, you haven't really refuted my point. Though maybe if I say George Bush should recycle, and you reply that I don't recycle, you've indirectly challenged my point by bringing attention to my contradictory hypocrisy. Hmm.
- talmand 13y agoSaying you're stupid for calling someone else stupid can sometimes be a proper response. I think you have to state why you think the person is stupid and for it to be a valid reason to avoid the response. Sort of like you did with the recycle version of the statement.
- mmanfrin 13y agoWrong analogy. It's like someone wearing a trashbag telling you you have no style, and someone pointing out that trash-bag-guy has no style either, so his opinion of what looks good is called in to question.
- nathanb 13y agoYour second example is a fallacy of circumstance. The virtues of recycling should be examined on their own merits, not based on how well an individual adheres to them. I can provide empirical, qualitative reasons why recycling saves energy. Does the fact that I chucked a glass bottle into a trash can invalidate these reasons? No, it just makes me a hypocrite. It calls my character into question, but my facts stand apart from that. Thus, it is still an ad-hominem argument.