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I have been facinated by Smalltalk but the language drives my kinda crazy. I have read the 'Blue book' (http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/64 http://wiki.squeak.org/
by gabordemooij 13y ago
I have been facinated by Smalltalk but the language drives my kinda crazy. I have read the 'Blue book' (http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/64 http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/64) and tried Pharo (http://www.pharo-project.org/home http://www.pharo-project.org/home), Amber (http://amber-lang.net/ http://amber-lang.net/) and GNU Smalltalk.
While I really like Smalltalk, for some reason it does not work for me as a web development platform (and the web is my platform), or maybe I just don't grasp it.
I tried Seaside (http://www.seaside.st/ http://www.seaside.st/) but the URLs it generates are not acceptable (unfortunately) and I find their component system quite complex. I hope someday I will find way to use the techniques behind Smalltalk (live environment, object model) in a browser or web environment. Maybe Amber will develop into something I can work with. I really hope so. Any suggestions anyone?
- fusiongyro 13y agoThere are two other web frameworks in use, and I think one of them is more about generating clean URLs. Illiad? I love the idea of Smalltalk, but it also never stuck for me. I think I just prefer to learn from books than through milling around in the image. All the great minds in Smalltalk seem to be self-driven autodidacts. I'm not. I'm pretty good at Haskell and Prolog though, so I think it works out in the end. I'm also not good at Lisp or Forth. :)
- bromagosa 13y agoYep. AidaWeb and Iliad (plus many other smaller ones). Although Iliad is not about generating clean URLs (it can, though), but more about being small and understandable, plus having Ajax for free and being pragmatic.