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>We then carefully observe what happens when a page loads. onLoad and onError events tell us if they’re successfully retrieved or if requests have been blocked

>We then carefully observe what happens when a page loads. onLoad and onError events tell us if they’re successfully retrieved or if requests have been blocked Unfortunately for them many Adblock users also use Noscript or Javascript Blocker. Circumventing Adblock this way will just drive more people to prevent untrusted websites running code on their machines. A net win for web security but probably not the intended effect.

wingspan 13y ago
Can anyone else confirm this? Personally, I've always used AdBlock, but never used a Javascript blocker because it is substantially more effort and I am lazy. I do use Disconnect, though, to block that certain flavor of JS.
- r0h1n 13y ago
  I use Adblock, NoScript and Disconnect. Been using the former two in conjunction for years.
- npsimons 13y ago
  The first two things I install on any fresh browser is NoScript and AdBlock. I then make a point of permanently blocking JS from any domain looking like it might be used only for ads. I'll selectively turn on JS for one (very constrained!) domain at a time if I need to do something (like login to purchase or comment), but if I'm just browsing and a site no-worky-without-js? Tab closed, no second thoughts. There's a certain blogging platform site (can't remember what it's called) that gets linked here a lot that doesn't work with JS off; I've never read anything posted there.
- rschmitty 13y ago
  You want to confirm other people disable javascript? https://addons.mozilla.org/En-us/firefox/addon/noscript/ https://addons.mozilla.org/En-us/firefox/addon/noscript/
- dkersten 13y ago
  I use adblock and Ghostery. Partly because I'm tired of ads but mostly because I'm tired of sites connecting to ten external services making pages load slower and sending my details to third parties without my consent.
kamjam 13y ago
If a website popups up a message "we detected you are running adblock, please whitelist us to continue" I will press that little x button and move on. My feeling is they are most likely trying to spam me with something or malware me.
- dkersten 13y ago
  I've used another site by the pagefair guys while running adblock and it didn't prevent me from using the site but rather asked me nicely to perhaps turn adblock off. But I didn't...
clarry 13y ago
I hope you're right, but I fear the people who block scripts are a minority that'll be ignored. Both by those who think doing all in Javascript is "The Way", also by those who want more control over the user. More and more sites are requiring JS to display content that could be served just fine (if not better) as a static document. I don't know how much of that is done with the intent of having control over the user, but I've witnessed at least one web developer admit to making JS non-optional because of an advertising contract -- the idea being that users will allow scripts on an all-or-nothing basis, so to view the site, they'll also run the ad scripts.
eli 13y ago
Extremely non-scientific survey: https://addons.mozilla.org/En-us/firefox/addon/noscript/ https://addons.mozilla.org/En-us/firefox/addon/noscript/ has 2MM users and https://addons.mozilla.org/En-us/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/?src=ss https://addons.mozilla.org/En-us/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/... has 17MM IMHO, NoScript is too annoying to be practical for most users. It's not the sort of thing you can set it and forget it.

wingspan 13y ago

Can anyone else confirm this? Personally, I've always used AdBlock, but never used a Javascript blocker because it is substantially more effort and I am lazy. I do use Disconnect, though, to block that certain flavor of JS.

r0h1n 13y ago
I use Adblock, NoScript and Disconnect. Been using the former two in conjunction for years.
npsimons 13y ago
The first two things I install on any fresh browser is NoScript and AdBlock. I then make a point of permanently blocking JS from any domain looking like it might be used only for ads. I'll selectively turn on JS for one (very constrained!) domain at a time if I need to do something (like login to purchase or comment), but if I'm just browsing and a site no-worky-without-js? Tab closed, no second thoughts. There's a certain blogging platform site (can't remember what it's called) that gets linked here a lot that doesn't work with JS off; I've never read anything posted there.
rschmitty 13y ago
You want to confirm other people disable javascript? https://addons.mozilla.org/En-us/firefox/addon/noscript/ https://addons.mozilla.org/En-us/firefox/addon/noscript/
dkersten 13y ago
I use adblock and Ghostery. Partly because I'm tired of ads but mostly because I'm tired of sites connecting to ten external services making pages load slower and sending my details to third parties without my consent.

kamjam 13y ago

If a website popups up a message "we detected you are running adblock, please whitelist us to continue" I will press that little x button and move on. My feeling is they are most likely trying to spam me with something or malware me.

dkersten 13y ago
I've used another site by the pagefair guys while running adblock and it didn't prevent me from using the site but rather asked me nicely to perhaps turn adblock off. But I didn't...

clarry 13y ago

I hope you're right, but I fear the people who block scripts are a minority that'll be ignored. Both by those who think doing all in Javascript is "The Way", also by those who want more control over the user. More and more sites are requiring JS to display content that could be served just fine (if not better) as a static document. I don't know how much of that is done with the intent of having control over the user, but I've witnessed at least one web developer admit to making JS non-optional because of an advertising contract -- the idea being that users will allow scripts on an all-or-nothing basis, so to view the site, they'll also run the ad scripts.

eli 13y ago

Extremely non-scientific survey: https://addons.mozilla.org/En-us/firefox/addon/noscript/ https://addons.mozilla.org/En-us/firefox/addon/noscript/ has 2MM users and https://addons.mozilla.org/En-us/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/?src=ss https://addons.mozilla.org/En-us/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/... has 17MM IMHO, NoScript is too annoying to be practical for most users. It's not the sort of thing you can set it and forget it.