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In case you are wondering why he was out for FriendlyChemist, this claims that user was extorting him for $500k by threatening to release the information of tho
by jere 13y ago
In case you are wondering why he was out for FriendlyChemist, this claims that user was extorting him for $500k by threatening to release the information of thousands of Silk Road users.
Here's the part I don't understand:
* A user friendlychemist threatens DPR.
* DPR asks friendlychemist to refer his "supplier" to DPR.
* redandwhite says he was "asked to contatct" DPR by friendlychemist and friendlychemist owes redandwhite money
* DPR asks for a hit from redandwhite on friendlychemist
That makes zero sense to me. Why would you assume those two users are not the same person or aren't at least allies?
- jlgreco 13y agoHe may have felt that taking that chance was his only option.
- logicallee 13y agoOr that they would simply split the money and his target would shut up (pretend to die, by disappearing off that monicker). Or if it's the same user, the money doesn't even have to be split for that. Or it's a way to send a message that he's serious.... (in a way the recipient gets).
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- badclient 13y agoOr may be it makes a lot of sense? May be... * DPR was ready to pay friendlychemist upto $150K * BUT DPR was also afraid it'd lead to more extortion * DPR knew redandwhite was same as friendlychemist or an associate of his Based on these assumptions, DPR's move to pay redandwhite was really DPR paying friendlychemist while also communicating the length to which he is willing to go to deal with extortionists. So by going the path he went, he paid off friendlychemist and scared him at the same time.
- tptacek 13y agoThat's crazy. Ulbricht would have to have been the dumbest person in the world to create an electronic record of having ordered and verified the consummation of a hired killing simply to send a message. "LOL JK", he planned to tell the jury? The guy he tried to have killed could show up and testify on his behalf and a reasonable jury might still find him guilty. Absurd. I think we can all see at this point that Ulbricht got played. But that doesn't exculpate him. (Not that it matters yet; he hasn't been charged with the attempted murder).
- badclient 13y agoThese underground market places are known for big talk, not calculated talk.
- tptacek 13y agoIt wasn't just "big talk". It was big talk, a negotiation, and then a massive cash payment.
- pcrh 13y agoShouldn't they be able to track the bitcoin payments?
- nullc 13y agoIt didn't make much sense. Toy version of the conversation. FC: Give me money so I can pay my debts. DP: Lemme talk to your creditor. RW: I'm FC's creditor, whats up. DP: I don't owe FC money. Rather I want him dead. Can you do this. RW: Sure. $250k. DP: I normally pay 80k to kill people. Split the difference? ... uh. wtf? The whole exchange really makes no sense, unless you assume that DPR knew he was talking to the same guy all along and was working on terms that would make the guy not bother him by scaring him off. Edit: Nevermind! Apparently the 80k "hit" wasn't just a negotiation technique: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/blog/bal-silk-road-owner-ross-william-ulbricht-allegedly-tried-to-arrange-witness-murder-in-md-20131002,0,5476223.story http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/blog/bal-sil...
- rdl 13y agoI assume redandwhite is a Hells Angels reference, which makes assassinations for hire a bit more plausible.
- dsl 13y agoHe was Canadian, red and white are the colors of their flag.