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It's interesting that the worlds most popular operating systems, Windows, iOS, and Android, use almost zero FSF software (the "system"), although much of Androi

by codex 13y ago

It's interesting that the worlds most popular operating systems, Windows, iOS, and Android, use almost zero FSF software (the "system"), although much of Android is GPL licensed.

whydo 13y ago
You do realize that Android uses the GNU/Linux kernel, right?
- takluyver 13y ago
  The kernel is just Linux. GNU/Linux refers to the combination of the Linux kernel and GNU userland (core libraries and binaries).
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- jordigh 13y ago
  While I'm sure you're getting downvoted because people think that Linux the kernel has nothing to do with GNU, this isn't quite true: Linux uses the GNU General Public License and at the time of its initial announcement had to compare itself with GNU (and how it wasn't going to be as "professional" as GNU). While Linus himself nowadays actively speaks out against GNU, he still use GNU's license and GNU's software (gcc and glibc), so even in Linux alone, without the GNU userland, we see some influence of GNU on Android.
  - kemiller 13y ago
    Parent is getting downvoted because Linux is not from the FSF.
Mikeb85 13y ago
But so much of what we depend on every day, servers, supercomputers, infrastructure, compilers, etc..., relies on FSF software. Stuff like GCC, Make, Glib, Emacs, to implementations of various standard languages, and this of course doesn't count the FSF's influence, which is much broader than the packages they offer... Whether or not Android and iOS use FSF software, they do use software that was inspired by what the FSF pioneered...
ekianjo 13y ago
> It's interesting that the worlds most popular operating systems, Windows, iOS, and Android It's interesting that all of these OSes are provided TOGETHER with the machines they are sold with and therefore completely remove the possibility for the user to "choose" something else. Of course on a PC you can always install a Linux distro, but it's not like most consumers know about it.

by codex 13y ago

It's interesting that the worlds most popular operating systems, Windows, iOS, and Android, use almost zero FSF software (the "system"), although much of Android is GPL licensed.

whydo 13y ago

You do realize that Android uses the GNU/Linux kernel, right?

takluyver 13y ago
The kernel is just Linux. GNU/Linux refers to the combination of the Linux kernel and GNU userland (core libraries and binaries).
- deleted 13y ago
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jordigh 13y ago
While I'm sure you're getting downvoted because people think that Linux the kernel has nothing to do with GNU, this isn't quite true: Linux uses the GNU General Public License and at the time of its initial announcement had to compare itself with GNU (and how it wasn't going to be as "professional" as GNU). While Linus himself nowadays actively speaks out against GNU, he still use GNU's license and GNU's software (gcc and glibc), so even in Linux alone, without the GNU userland, we see some influence of GNU on Android.
- kemiller 13y ago
  Parent is getting downvoted because Linux is not from the FSF.

Mikeb85 13y ago

But so much of what we depend on every day, servers, supercomputers, infrastructure, compilers, etc..., relies on FSF software. Stuff like GCC, Make, Glib, Emacs, to implementations of various standard languages, and this of course doesn't count the FSF's influence, which is much broader than the packages they offer... Whether or not Android and iOS use FSF software, they do use software that was inspired by what the FSF pioneered...

ekianjo 13y ago

> It's interesting that the worlds most popular operating systems, Windows, iOS, and Android It's interesting that all of these OSes are provided TOGETHER with the machines they are sold with and therefore completely remove the possibility for the user to "choose" something else. Of course on a PC you can always install a Linux distro, but it's not like most consumers know about it.