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My friend's 12-month old baby reset the unlock code on her mother's phone and they ended up having to wipe it completely in order to recover.

nnnnni 13y ago
This is completely unrelated, but why do people say "12 months", "18 months", and "24 months" rather than 1 year, 1.5 years, and 2 years? I don't get it. I'd understand if they're younger than a year old (eg "My son is seven months old!"), but not once the age can be expressed in years.
- jrkatz 13y ago
  Babies grow fast, so there can be a fairly large difference between twelve months and fourteen months, or fourteen months and eighteen months. You can't express those values well in decimal format, so you can't discuss milestones and development in decimal format. My experience is that people usually switch over to years once the child is older than two.
- Steuard 13y ago
  It's a really neat question, and as a new-ish parent I've given it some thought. In fact, there's even another layer to it: shortly after birth, people tend to count in weeks rather than months. My guess at an answer is that human beings are more comfortable thinking about numbers that are small integers (between 1 and 20 or so?), and that (roughly speaking) we often want to be able to give a bit more precision than you'd get from just "1" vs. "2".[1] So for baby growth, parents will talk about how many days old their child is for the first week or so, and then use "weeks" for the first few months, and then use "months" until they're around 2 years old. (There's also a real sense in which the pace of child development seems to progress on a sort of log scale: change is very rapid at first, but gradually slows down. The use of different age units seems to roughly parallel that.) As an aside, this same human preference is presumably also why the English developed different units for (say) inches, feet, and miles rather than using one of those units for everything. [Side note: is there any common English unit between yards and miles? I grew up using "blocks", which is handy, but that's pretty city-specific.] [1] By "precision" I'm thinking more or less about "relative uncertainty". If you assume that an integer value is accurate to within +/- 0.5, then the percent uncertainty on 1 or 2 is so large as to make the information almost useless, while the implied uncertainty on a big number like 50 is probably smaller than is justified for most contexts.
  - saalweachter 13y ago
    Chains & rods are what first sprang to mind, but I don't think they were ever common. The definition of 'furlong' from http://physics.info/system-english/ http://physics.info/system-english/ makes it seem like it could have been in common usage: Literally, the length of a furrow. A sensible length for farmers that later evolved into the acre, which is discussed later in this section. A standard furrow is 220 yards long or ⅛ mile Google's ngram tool makes it seem like it was never a contender with the yard, mile, or league.
    - Gormo 13y ago
      Furlongs still are in common usage in certain applications. Horse racing, particularly.
  - LargeWu 13y ago
    Blocks is a good one, although it's not a formal unit, I generally tend to associate it with about a 1/10 of a mile.
- LargeWu 13y ago
  Because there's a lot of difference in development even from month to month, so the extra resolution is needed.
- darkarmani 13y ago
  Because numbers like the following are less clear: - 1.0833 years old: 13 months - 1.4166 years old: 17 months - 1.8333 years old: 22 months So, is it easier to use years on the clean decimals and months whenever it gets hairy, or to just settle on months?
- VincentEvans 13y ago
  I've read the other replies and my answer is pretty different. I think this has to do with a fact that up until 24 months many toddler-targeted things are spoken of in such fashion: - Clothes are sized in months 0-3, 3-6 etc.. - During doctor visits you discuss developmental milestones expressed in months. Etc. You get used to it, since at that age the development of a child is extremely condensed and years simply don't provide enough resolution.

nnnnni 13y ago

This is completely unrelated, but why do people say "12 months", "18 months", and "24 months" rather than 1 year, 1.5 years, and 2 years? I don't get it. I'd understand if they're younger than a year old (eg "My son is seven months old!"), but not once the age can be expressed in years.

jrkatz 13y ago
Babies grow fast, so there can be a fairly large difference between twelve months and fourteen months, or fourteen months and eighteen months. You can't express those values well in decimal format, so you can't discuss milestones and development in decimal format. My experience is that people usually switch over to years once the child is older than two.
Steuard 13y ago
It's a really neat question, and as a new-ish parent I've given it some thought. In fact, there's even another layer to it: shortly after birth, people tend to count in weeks rather than months. My guess at an answer is that human beings are more comfortable thinking about numbers that are small integers (between 1 and 20 or so?), and that (roughly speaking) we often want to be able to give a bit more precision than you'd get from just "1" vs. "2".[1] So for baby growth, parents will talk about how many days old their child is for the first week or so, and then use "weeks" for the first few months, and then use "months" until they're around 2 years old. (There's also a real sense in which the pace of child development seems to progress on a sort of log scale: change is very rapid at first, but gradually slows down. The use of different age units seems to roughly parallel that.) As an aside, this same human preference is presumably also why the English developed different units for (say) inches, feet, and miles rather than using one of those units for everything. [Side note: is there any common English unit between yards and miles? I grew up using "blocks", which is handy, but that's pretty city-specific.] [1] By "precision" I'm thinking more or less about "relative uncertainty". If you assume that an integer value is accurate to within +/- 0.5, then the percent uncertainty on 1 or 2 is so large as to make the information almost useless, while the implied uncertainty on a big number like 50 is probably smaller than is justified for most contexts.
- saalweachter 13y ago
  Chains & rods are what first sprang to mind, but I don't think they were ever common. The definition of 'furlong' from http://physics.info/system-english/ http://physics.info/system-english/ makes it seem like it could have been in common usage: Literally, the length of a furrow. A sensible length for farmers that later evolved into the acre, which is discussed later in this section. A standard furrow is 220 yards long or ⅛ mile Google's ngram tool makes it seem like it was never a contender with the yard, mile, or league.
  - Gormo 13y ago
    Furlongs still are in common usage in certain applications. Horse racing, particularly.
- LargeWu 13y ago
  Blocks is a good one, although it's not a formal unit, I generally tend to associate it with about a 1/10 of a mile.
LargeWu 13y ago
Because there's a lot of difference in development even from month to month, so the extra resolution is needed.
darkarmani 13y ago
Because numbers like the following are less clear: - 1.0833 years old: 13 months - 1.4166 years old: 17 months - 1.8333 years old: 22 months So, is it easier to use years on the clean decimals and months whenever it gets hairy, or to just settle on months?
VincentEvans 13y ago
I've read the other replies and my answer is pretty different. I think this has to do with a fact that up until 24 months many toddler-targeted things are spoken of in such fashion: - Clothes are sized in months 0-3, 3-6 etc.. - During doctor visits you discuss developmental milestones expressed in months. Etc. You get used to it, since at that age the development of a child is extremely condensed and years simply don't provide enough resolution.