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Harsh feedback is always oh-so-welcome. Jeering without explanation isn't - for me personally anyway. At least, that's how I behave so I probably hope/expect ot

Harsh feedback is always oh-so-welcome. Jeering without explanation isn't - for me personally anyway. At least, that's how I behave so I probably hope/expect others to do the same for me.

mathattack 13y ago
Hacker News has a spot in the Jeering----Constructive spectrum. You can't complain about the outcome if you know going in where the board is on the spectrum. Better to find (or create) a spot for more constructive advice if this isn't to your liking. (And yes, the internet is filled with assholes)
- DjangoReinhardt 13y ago
  Hmm, I guess that's where I got it wrong. My first few months of lurking on HN, I saw a lot of positive, encouraging posts & comments. Only when I started commenting did I begin to notice a few acerbic ones popping up here and there. I suspect I was looking at things with rose-tinted glasses and never quite readied myself for the 'darker' moments. Ah well, I learn something new everyday. As an aside, I have been working on something on the 'create a spot' bit you mentioned - as part of my self-learning process - but it is still along way from being an HN or anything like it. :)
  - mathattack 13y ago
    Now are you going to do a Show HN when it's ready? :-)
    - DjangoReinhardt 13y ago
      You bet, I will! And thanks to this post, I'll be better equipped to handle all kinds of comments/criticism/jeering as well! :D
DanBC 13y ago
So, how should this be re-written? > Bookmark hell? What about click through stuff hell? Needless to say, 5 clicks through, I gave up. "Users have short attention spans. They will not click through many pages to get to the content. Avoid splash pages if you can, and certainly don't make the user click X times to get the content" - that's very bland. "Ha ha, oh wow, that was a lot of clicking. I gave up, and I think most users would too"? Or what? While I agree with you that showHN is often a bit rougher than it needs to be I agree with others that you've chosen sub-optimal examples.

Harsh feedback is always oh-so-welcome. Jeering without explanation isn't - for me personally anyway. At least, that's how I behave so I probably hope/expect others to do the same for me.

mathattack 13y ago

Hacker News has a spot in the Jeering----Constructive spectrum. You can't complain about the outcome if you know going in where the board is on the spectrum. Better to find (or create) a spot for more constructive advice if this isn't to your liking. (And yes, the internet is filled with assholes)

DjangoReinhardt 13y ago
Hmm, I guess that's where I got it wrong. My first few months of lurking on HN, I saw a lot of positive, encouraging posts & comments. Only when I started commenting did I begin to notice a few acerbic ones popping up here and there. I suspect I was looking at things with rose-tinted glasses and never quite readied myself for the 'darker' moments. Ah well, I learn something new everyday. As an aside, I have been working on something on the 'create a spot' bit you mentioned - as part of my self-learning process - but it is still along way from being an HN or anything like it. :)
- mathattack 13y ago
  Now are you going to do a Show HN when it's ready? :-)
  - DjangoReinhardt 13y ago
    You bet, I will! And thanks to this post, I'll be better equipped to handle all kinds of comments/criticism/jeering as well! :D

DanBC 13y ago

So, how should this be re-written? > Bookmark hell? What about click through stuff hell? Needless to say, 5 clicks through, I gave up. "Users have short attention spans. They will not click through many pages to get to the content. Avoid splash pages if you can, and certainly don't make the user click X times to get the content" - that's very bland. "Ha ha, oh wow, that was a lot of clicking. I gave up, and I think most users would too"? Or what? While I agree with you that showHN is often a bit rougher than it needs to be I agree with others that you've chosen sub-optimal examples.