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Well, their USP (unique selling proposition) is that they are secure and that they respect your privacy. From a functional/feature point of view, F-Secure's "D

by ak39 13y ago

Well, their USP (unique selling proposition) is that they are secure and that they respect your privacy. From a functional/feature point of view, F-Secure's "Dropbox" is probably identical to their competitors'. Can "Fun" be objectively assessed? I doubt it. It's just confusing when you start off with important features such as security & privacy. Why do I feel they cheapened that proposition by throwing in "Fun"?

Jugurtha 13y ago
Exactly. Here it is verbatim "We like what Dropbox and SkyDrive do but where is the privacy and fun?". And I thought : "Are you kidding me?". Like we're supposed to play with balloons and dance when uploading/downloading files and be all smiley. Fun ? Seriously ! I don't want it to be fun, I want it to be effectively done. The promo video is really clumsy. Accusing a service of lacking privacy (how do you know?) and fun (really?) and furthermore, failing to tell how their service is more private (and fun?) just is clumsy. Newbie marketing tactics, too: In my experience, the companies that accuse competitors' products of sucking, and fail to show how their own products are better aren't that great. - How do they know Dropbox isn't fun ? I find Dropbox great for what I want it to do. - How do they know Dropbox isn't secure? And claiming theirs is, how do we know it really is and not just a claim. In other words, if I were to ask folks at younited: What is Dropbox not doing that you are. Don't give me "not secure" answers, get technical. If they don't, it's just defamation. How do you measure privacy and security? Is there really anything secure .. I always found that talking in absolutes really shady when it comes to security. I uninstalled McAffee ages ago after seeing a pop-up saying "total security" or something like that. How can you guarantee privacy and security, when there are back-doors in the hardware itself. Then there's the user education (which you shouldn't count on), then there are the lines, then the ISP, and a whole bunch of routers and nodes and networks where the information passes.
- staltz 13y ago
  I agree with everything, except: > What is Dropbox not doing that you are. I think the technical answer is that younited is aggregating your data across accounts such as Facebook, Dropbox, Picasa, etc. Dropbox doesn't do that, and it is actually nice to have all my data in one place. However, IMHO, having everything in one place dramatically increases the responsibilities of that "place". And I don't think a simple "we promise we won't share your data with governments" is strong enough to gain our trust. After all, companies do change their ToS...

by ak39 13y ago

Jugurtha 13y ago

Exactly. Here it is verbatim "We like what Dropbox and SkyDrive do but where is the privacy and fun?". And I thought : "Are you kidding me?". Like we're supposed to play with balloons and dance when uploading/downloading files and be all smiley. Fun ? Seriously ! I don't want it to be fun, I want it to be effectively done. The promo video is really clumsy. Accusing a service of lacking privacy (how do you know?) and fun (really?) and furthermore, failing to tell how their service is more private (and fun?) just is clumsy. Newbie marketing tactics, too: In my experience, the companies that accuse competitors' products of sucking, and fail to show how their own products are better aren't that great. - How do they know Dropbox isn't fun ? I find Dropbox great for what I want it to do. - How do they know Dropbox isn't secure? And claiming theirs is, how do we know it really is and not just a claim. In other words, if I were to ask folks at younited: What is Dropbox not doing that you are. Don't give me "not secure" answers, get technical. If they don't, it's just defamation. How do you measure privacy and security? Is there really anything secure .. I always found that talking in absolutes really shady when it comes to security. I uninstalled McAffee ages ago after seeing a pop-up saying "total security" or something like that. How can you guarantee privacy and security, when there are back-doors in the hardware itself. Then there's the user education (which you shouldn't count on), then there are the lines, then the ISP, and a whole bunch of routers and nodes and networks where the information passes.

staltz 13y ago
I agree with everything, except: > What is Dropbox not doing that you are. I think the technical answer is that younited is aggregating your data across accounts such as Facebook, Dropbox, Picasa, etc. Dropbox doesn't do that, and it is actually nice to have all my data in one place. However, IMHO, having everything in one place dramatically increases the responsibilities of that "place". And I don't think a simple "we promise we won't share your data with governments" is strong enough to gain our trust. After all, companies do change their ToS...