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This is exactly how I describe my sleep pattern. I just don't feel like my body has a 24 hour cycle. I'd probably be awake 20 hours and sleep 7 hours, and would

by zhobbs 13y ago

This is exactly how I describe my sleep pattern. I just don't feel like my body has a 24 hour cycle. I'd probably be awake 20 hours and sleep 7 hours, and would end up shifting my schedule by 3 hours a day if there were no external factors (sun, work, etc).

galaktor 13y ago
I've been thinking about this a bit, too. It reminds me of an article I read (can't find the link) that described "segmented sleep" [1]; how our ancestors might have had two sleep phases because nights were longer (e.g. no electrical light). Creative people would often have worked in the quiet period between both sleeps. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segmented_sleep http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segmented_sleep
- Nursie 13y ago
  I don't think that would suit me either. When I'm awake I stay awake. Sleep likewise. It doesn't (and can't!) address the not-enough-hours-in-the-day thing.
  - galaktor 13y ago
    I posted that more because I found it interesting, not because I think it would be very realistic to adopt such a pattern in "modern days". If you want my advice (feel free to ignore me, I'm just a random guy on the internet): If you aren't happy with how it's going for you (big if), identify the variables you can change, and experiment with them. What worked for me doesn't have to work for you, but I wouldn't count on "them" adding hours to the day anytime soon :-) Diet and exercise had a strong effect on my energy levels and sleep patterns, beyond that I'd just be guessing. The topic turns into biochemistry very fast, and I'm not very good at that. But at the end of the day, you're a machine, and that machine can be hacked. How, is up for you to find out.
    - Nursie 13y ago
      Advice is always helpful, especially from someone who has been owlish and found a way to change. I go through phases of being happy with it and not, guess we'll see if/when I get annoyed enough to have another go at 'fixing' it.
      - galaktor 13y ago
        As I mentioned above, I kind of had to change once I had kids and a day job. I might still be owling (heh) if my priorities weren't forced into a change that way. Good luck :-)
    - nucleardog 13y ago
      (On mobile so I can't really load up much for articles, so the rest is based on an assumption about what you linked regarding segmented sleep in the past.) My old business partner used to pull it off quite effectively. His girlfriend was an early to bed, early to rise type and seemed to require more sleep than him. They'd go to bed around 9 or 10. She'd sleep through to 6. He'd sleep through to about 4, get up and screw around on the computer for a couple of hours, go back to bed, and then get up again at 8. Got to go to bed at the same time as his girlfriend, got an extra couple hours of productive time in the night, got up at his regular time. It was, to me, a pretty ingenious solution within his constraints. Unfortunately I'm the "if I'm up, I'm up" type. Takes me a bit of work to get conscious but once I do I won't sleep again until my bed time.

by zhobbs 13y ago

galaktor 13y ago

I've been thinking about this a bit, too. It reminds me of an article I read (can't find the link) that described "segmented sleep" [1]; how our ancestors might have had two sleep phases because nights were longer (e.g. no electrical light). Creative people would often have worked in the quiet period between both sleeps. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segmented_sleep http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segmented_sleep

Nursie 13y ago
I don't think that would suit me either. When I'm awake I stay awake. Sleep likewise. It doesn't (and can't!) address the not-enough-hours-in-the-day thing.
- galaktor 13y ago
  I posted that more because I found it interesting, not because I think it would be very realistic to adopt such a pattern in "modern days". If you want my advice (feel free to ignore me, I'm just a random guy on the internet): If you aren't happy with how it's going for you (big if), identify the variables you can change, and experiment with them. What worked for me doesn't have to work for you, but I wouldn't count on "them" adding hours to the day anytime soon :-) Diet and exercise had a strong effect on my energy levels and sleep patterns, beyond that I'd just be guessing. The topic turns into biochemistry very fast, and I'm not very good at that. But at the end of the day, you're a machine, and that machine can be hacked. How, is up for you to find out.
  - Nursie 13y ago
    Advice is always helpful, especially from someone who has been owlish and found a way to change. I go through phases of being happy with it and not, guess we'll see if/when I get annoyed enough to have another go at 'fixing' it.
    - galaktor 13y ago
      As I mentioned above, I kind of had to change once I had kids and a day job. I might still be owling (heh) if my priorities weren't forced into a change that way. Good luck :-)
  - nucleardog 13y ago
    (On mobile so I can't really load up much for articles, so the rest is based on an assumption about what you linked regarding segmented sleep in the past.) My old business partner used to pull it off quite effectively. His girlfriend was an early to bed, early to rise type and seemed to require more sleep than him. They'd go to bed around 9 or 10. She'd sleep through to 6. He'd sleep through to about 4, get up and screw around on the computer for a couple of hours, go back to bed, and then get up again at 8. Got to go to bed at the same time as his girlfriend, got an extra couple hours of productive time in the night, got up at his regular time. It was, to me, a pretty ingenious solution within his constraints. Unfortunately I'm the "if I'm up, I'm up" type. Takes me a bit of work to get conscious but once I do I won't sleep again until my bed time.