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The US government is on partial shutdown. So many hundreds of thousands of US government workers will either 1. not be paid to work, or 2. be furloughed (not go
by Cub3 13y ago
The US government is on partial shutdown. So many hundreds of thousands of US government workers will either 1. not be paid to work, or 2. be furloughed (not go in to work). This applies to non-essential workers (found a list here - http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2013/09/politics/government-shutdown-impact/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2013/09/politics/government-s... ).
Retroactive pay will apply once things are worked out.
- rbritton 13y agoOne important thing not to forget, Partisan issues aside, is that both Congress and the President still get paid without any hiccups.
- Phlarp 13y agohttp://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/09/27/us/who-goes-to-work-during-government-shutdown.html http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/09/27/us/who-goes-to... Broad strokes seems to be that anything a normal citizen would enjoy or a program of social uplift etc gets shut down. National parks, NASA, various food inspectors (how is that not "essential"??) and some sporadic regulators. Meanwhile, the DEA, military recruiters, and yes congress / the president keep getting paid. Is there a single elected official that will be affected by the shutdown? That would seem like mis-aligned incentives. Who else is ready for some debt ceiling!?
- techsupporter 13y agoCongress and the President are both required to be paid by the Constitution (20th amendment and Art 2, Sec 1, respectively).
- alan_cx 13y agoAh, so they like that part of the constitution.
- dxhdr 13y agoWhen would a full shutdown occur?
- Phlarp 13y agoI'm not aware of any official provisions for a "full shutdown", but if the debt ceiling isn't raised in roughly two weeks the government would technically default on it's obligations. This could certainly be viewed as a type of full shutdown.
- khuey 13y agoThe debt ceiling issue is a lot more complicated than that and even if it weren't raised the federal government would continue to be able to spend the money it receives from tax revenue. That would be a more severe shutdown (and likely catastrophic to world financial markets). But it would not be a "full" shutdown in the sense that the entire government stops functioning.
- D9u 13y agoA "full shutdown" would take everyone in uniform marching to the District of Criminals and throwing all the politicians in jail.
- davidw 13y ago> A "full shutdown" would take everyone in uniform marching to the District of Criminals and throwing all the politicians in jail. You can go live in some kleptocracy in Africa if that kind of thing inspires you. This is exhibit 2736372 of "why political articles on HN are bad". We now have individuals advocating a military coup d'état against the elected government in the US.
- jdimov 13y agoFuck the elected government in the US!
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- nearengine 13y agoWorking without being paid during the furlough ("volunteering") is outlawed[1] to prevent employees from suing for back pay... which is also not guaranteed by any law. CNN simply made that assumption because it was granted during the last major shutdown. http://www.bsnlawfirm.com/newsletter/OP0413_Natter.pdf http://www.bsnlawfirm.com/newsletter/OP0413_Natter.pdf
- saraid216 13y agoAn acquaintance stated that he won't be able to enter campus to check on his live specimens. So they're going to die. I didn't get any details from him, but I'm sort of hoping he's talking about bacteria...