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Yep you called it. See: http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/09/30/delta-pilots-fought-against-deal-to-replace-ipad-flight-bags-with-microsoft-surface http://ap

Yep you called it. See: http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/09/30/delta-pilots-fought-against-deal-to-replace-ipad-flight-bags-with-microsoft-surface http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/09/30/delta-pilots-fough... > "We fought hard for iPad," a pilot working for the airline told AppleInsider. He described the Delta deal as being about money, travel contracts, and Delta's Information Technology staff historically being "in bed" with Microsoft. Read the rest of the article. It gets worse.

protomyth 13y ago
And here we see why Steve Jobs said at the D conference didn't like selling to companies. Microsoft is still very, very good at corporate sales.
bicknergseng 13y ago
I don't know... a single, anonymous pilot's 6 word quote followed by a lot of editorial in Apple Insider. It's not like Apple hasn't done plenty of loss leaders.
- Bud 13y ago
  Oh? Which loss leaders, exactly?
MichaelGG 13y ago
>"Delta's Information Technology staff historically being "in bed" with Microsoft" You do realise that Apple doesn't sell any corporate software, whereas Active Directory and other MS key server techs are a fundamental part of many company's networks. AFAIK, Apple doesn't make it exactly easy to remote manage devices - that's not their main target, while it is for Microsoft. The deal is still probably more about PR, but it's not like IT being "in bed" with MS is anything new.
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- eddieroger 13y ago
  > AFAIK, Apple doesn't make it exactly easy to remote manage devices - that's not their main target, while it is for Microsoft. Apple's MDM suite is actually pretty robust these days, and iOS 7 made it better with silent OTA installs and even more controls. Of course, that relies on a device being online (as any remote management tool would), and I'm not sure if the FAA approved the trial iPads or the Surfaces to have any kind of wireless on during flight. Actually, if these are the Surface RT 2 and not Surface Pro 2, then I think Apple's MDM would win for remote management. Last I understood, WinRT lacked basic remote admin things like joining a domain and policies.

protomyth 13y ago

And here we see why Steve Jobs said at the D conference didn't like selling to companies. Microsoft is still very, very good at corporate sales.

bicknergseng 13y ago

I don't know... a single, anonymous pilot's 6 word quote followed by a lot of editorial in Apple Insider. It's not like Apple hasn't done plenty of loss leaders.

Bud 13y ago
Oh? Which loss leaders, exactly?

MichaelGG 13y ago

>"Delta's Information Technology staff historically being "in bed" with Microsoft" You do realise that Apple doesn't sell any corporate software, whereas Active Directory and other MS key server techs are a fundamental part of many company's networks. AFAIK, Apple doesn't make it exactly easy to remote manage devices - that's not their main target, while it is for Microsoft. The deal is still probably more about PR, but it's not like IT being "in bed" with MS is anything new.

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eddieroger 13y ago
> AFAIK, Apple doesn't make it exactly easy to remote manage devices - that's not their main target, while it is for Microsoft. Apple's MDM suite is actually pretty robust these days, and iOS 7 made it better with silent OTA installs and even more controls. Of course, that relies on a device being online (as any remote management tool would), and I'm not sure if the FAA approved the trial iPads or the Surfaces to have any kind of wireless on during flight. Actually, if these are the Surface RT 2 and not Surface Pro 2, then I think Apple's MDM would win for remote management. Last I understood, WinRT lacked basic remote admin things like joining a domain and policies.