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I disagree. Making the victim look like some kind of pervert or loner would appear to be common occurrence for British citizens. Of course, all Brits might all
by junto 13y ago
I disagree. Making the victim look like some kind of pervert or loner would appear to be common occurrence for British citizens.
Of course, all Brits might all be perverted loners!
Nicholas Anderson, former MI6 officer turned author, told
The Independent on Sunday: "I am on verbal record to my
own family, close friends and select lawyers that if
anything ever happened to me – a straight man and a
positive thinker – it would likely be made to look either
like a suicide or that I died dressed like a woman.
"Over the years, it seems to me a favourite way of
presentation. I, of course, am not suicidal in any remote
way nor do I like to dress so. When I read in the press
about Gareth Williams, women's clothes, and a wig, it all
fits the usual scenario."
N.B. The source of the above quote is not currently available:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/curious-case-of-a-lack-of-curiosity-over-missing-spy-7687539.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/curious-case-of-a...
Other suspicious UK deaths:
- http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mi6-dirty-secrets-why-do-sex-games-819152 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mi6-dirty-secrets-why-d...:
- In 1983, 25-year-old Stephen Drinkwater, who worked as a
clerk at GCHQ, was found dead at his home with a plastic
bag over his head.
- In 1997 another worker, Nicholas Husband, 46, was found
dead at home dressed in a bra and panties – with a
plastic bag over his head.
- Two years later, Kevin Allen, 31, a language expert at
GCHQ, was found dead in his bed at home with a plastic
bag over his head and a dust mask over his mouth.
And a few more British perverts and loners:
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Milligan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Milligan
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Gareth_Williams http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Gareth_Williams
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Mossman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Mossman
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Moyle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Moyle
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Rusbridger http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Rusbridger
Plus a couple of other deaths that were linked to the state:
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilda_Murrell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilda_Murrell
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Kelly http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Kelly
- Dr. Richard Holmes (Dr. David Kelly's co-worker) - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2133201/Dr-Richard-Holmes-Suicide-riddle-weapons-expert-worked-David-Kelly.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2133201/Dr-Richard-H...
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_MacRae http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_MacRae
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Mannakee http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Mannakee
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindi_St_Clair http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindi_St_Clair
Apologies about the "source" but:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2139799/Sex-spies-seven-suspicious-deaths-The-murky-waters-intelligence-world--coincidence-conspiracy.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2139799/Sex-spies-se...
In summary, many of these deaths were suspicious. None of them have been proved to be attributed to the British security services, but is interesting that the link (however tenuous) is there.
Look at it another way. If you are the security services and you need to get rid of someone, making a murder look like a suicide is a good move. However, a suicide normally requires depression or some linked emotional trauma. Without that, the suicide is suspicious. If the suicide is linked to an accidental sexual game then the victim looks like a pervert, is shamed publicly and the "suicide" is much difficult to question. QED, murders through sexual misadventures are much easier to pass off than depressive suicides or straight up murders.
- antocv 13y agoHere are https non-mobile links https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Milligan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Milligan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Kelly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Kelly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Gareth_Williams https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Gareth_Williams https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Moyle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Moyle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Rusbridger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Rusbridger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilda_Murrell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilda_Murrell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_MacRae https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_MacRae
- gadders 13y agoMichael Hutchence died like this as well. Perhaps we should investigate his links to MI6.
- junto 13y agoOf course I agree that there is the possibility that autoerotic-asphyxiation is an art that is enjoyed by many more than most of us appreciate! Sometimes it goes wrong. However, there just seems to be worrying number of people who are linked to the British security services. Other notable names (non-security services related) include: - David Carradine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Carradine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Carradine - Kristian Digby: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristian_Digby https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristian_Digby - Kevin Glibert: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Gilbert http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Gilbert
- teamgb 13y agoYes, the Daily Mail loves a bit of faux outrage and tabloid gossip, but they actually do employ journalists (sometimes). Here they cover expert evidence given to the coroner. Check out the pictures and videos. >An escapology expert tried and failed 300 times to lock himself into an identical bag after being hired to try to crack the mystery of Gareth Williams' death. ... He said: 'I just cannot do it. This case, I just cannot get it off my mind. It is very difficult. I am an escapologist, I am thinking outside the box here and trying everything I can to find a way.' Dr Wilcox added: 'With all your trials and failures do you think it would be impossible to padlock this bag from the inside?' Mr Faulding replied: 'I cannot say it was impossible, but even Houdini would struggle.' He said Mr Williams could not have survived for more than 30 minutes as the temperature quickly rose and oxygen levels dropped. Mr Faulding said he only lasted five minutes before becoming 'delirious' after zipping himself inside with emergency oxygen and a paramedic outside. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2136118/Gareth-Williams-inquest--Houdini-struggle-padlock-holdall-spy-dead-in.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2136118/Gareth-Willi...