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Good looking design, but a superbike that doesn't make any noise? That's a dangerous game. The noise it's part of it's presence and dare I say it, safety.

by jawr 13y ago

geoka9 13y ago
Maybe _some_ noise, yes. But god aren't most bikes noisy; I almost feel my ear drums burst whenever one passes by. I think there should be a noise limit, in addition to the speed one, at least in the cities.
- mikestew 13y ago
  Bikes don't come out of the factory noisy, there are EPA limits in the US. They become noisy when some dork sticks an aftermarket pipe on it. There are also noise limits everywhere that I am aware of, those laws are just rarely enforced. Why that is, I have no idea. Seems like easy ticket money on a sunny day. As for the parent, if you're relying on your bike's noise to keep you out of trouble, you're an accident waiting to happen. Loud pipes don't save lives, paying attention and not riding like an ass does.
  - dbuder 13y ago
    Loud pipes do save lives, you can't control where the SUV driving, mobile phone texting crowd go on the road but you can make enough noise that they are less likely to blindly merge lanes into a motorcycle. The lack of noise was an issue that was brought up when electric cars started to appear, basically the current solution is to have a speaker and a synth make it sound like an engine, but a little bit quieter than a real one. Most people fit aftermarket pipes for more power, that doesn't make them dorks. That harley that went past you and sounded like a 747, well that's another story.
  - jawr 13y ago
    Coming up a blind bend in poor visibility on a bike that makes absolutely no noise and someone decides to do a u-turn from a parked position... I'm not suggesting that the noise of the bike is going to get you out of trouble every single time, nor is it an excuse to ride like an idiot. However you're clinging on to an engine attached to two wheels and I want all the presence I can get because I can only account for my driving and not the driving of others.
  - mikestew 13y ago
    dbuder, you're hell banned, for reasons that aren't obvious to me. But you said, "Most people fit aftermarket pipes for more power, that doesn't make them dorks." If there were some objective way to answer the question, I'd bet a large sum of real money that people fit aftermarket pipes to make more noise or a noise more to their liking. Even I have an aftermarket pipe, complete with a Power Commander module to make sure that the pipe actually does increase power, dyno'ed to make sure. But you wanna know the primary reason I put a pipe on my VFR? Because I don't want to ride around on something that sounds like a sewing machine (which stock Hondas typically do). I'd like to think the pipe is not obnoxious, though my neighbors might disagree.
mey 13y ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnBvi8uXsq4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnBvi8uXsq4 I makes some noise, at least at the higher speeds.

Good looking design, but a superbike that doesn't make any noise? That's a dangerous game. The noise it's part of it's presence and dare I say it, safety.

by jawr 13y ago

Good looking design, but a superbike that doesn't make any noise? That's a dangerous game. The noise it's part of it's presence and dare I say it, safety.

geoka9 13y ago

Maybe _some_ noise, yes. But god aren't most bikes noisy; I almost feel my ear drums burst whenever one passes by. I think there should be a noise limit, in addition to the speed one, at least in the cities.

mikestew 13y ago
Bikes don't come out of the factory noisy, there are EPA limits in the US. They become noisy when some dork sticks an aftermarket pipe on it. There are also noise limits everywhere that I am aware of, those laws are just rarely enforced. Why that is, I have no idea. Seems like easy ticket money on a sunny day. As for the parent, if you're relying on your bike's noise to keep you out of trouble, you're an accident waiting to happen. Loud pipes don't save lives, paying attention and not riding like an ass does.
- dbuder 13y ago
  Loud pipes do save lives, you can't control where the SUV driving, mobile phone texting crowd go on the road but you can make enough noise that they are less likely to blindly merge lanes into a motorcycle. The lack of noise was an issue that was brought up when electric cars started to appear, basically the current solution is to have a speaker and a synth make it sound like an engine, but a little bit quieter than a real one. Most people fit aftermarket pipes for more power, that doesn't make them dorks. That harley that went past you and sounded like a 747, well that's another story.
- jawr 13y ago
  Coming up a blind bend in poor visibility on a bike that makes absolutely no noise and someone decides to do a u-turn from a parked position... I'm not suggesting that the noise of the bike is going to get you out of trouble every single time, nor is it an excuse to ride like an idiot. However you're clinging on to an engine attached to two wheels and I want all the presence I can get because I can only account for my driving and not the driving of others.
- mikestew 13y ago
  dbuder, you're hell banned, for reasons that aren't obvious to me. But you said, "Most people fit aftermarket pipes for more power, that doesn't make them dorks." If there were some objective way to answer the question, I'd bet a large sum of real money that people fit aftermarket pipes to make more noise or a noise more to their liking. Even I have an aftermarket pipe, complete with a Power Commander module to make sure that the pipe actually does increase power, dyno'ed to make sure. But you wanna know the primary reason I put a pipe on my VFR? Because I don't want to ride around on something that sounds like a sewing machine (which stock Hondas typically do). I'd like to think the pipe is not obnoxious, though my neighbors might disagree.

mey 13y ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnBvi8uXsq4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnBvi8uXsq4 I makes some noise, at least at the higher speeds.