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I am kind of pissed that Microsoft hasn't been hitting the Enterprise Phone hard. I have a lot of people I consult for on mobile sec stuff who are still on bb7

by rdl 13y ago

I am kind of pissed that Microsoft hasn't been hitting the Enterprise Phone hard. I have a lot of people I consult for on mobile sec stuff who are still on bb7, never will BYOD, and who need something essentially bb7 equivalent for secure email/messaging/etc. They were willing to tolerate RIM as a partner due to the extensive security audits and certification of the platform, but probably wouldn't trust Apple or Google with the ability to push arbitrary code to their devices.

gnaffle 13y ago
At least with Apple, I'm pretty sure that if you're an enterprise customer you can run the entire provisioning / update service in-house, including specifying which apps are allowed and how/when they should be updated. I know at least a few big enterprises with high security risk (banks, oil companies) that have allowed iPhones on their networks.
Terretta 13y ago
With iOS 7 supporting per-app VPN, you can couple that with corporate provisioning to require particular apps for company email, messaging, file markup, and require those apps to only work over the company VPN. What's more, given that Microsoft is known to have shipped backdoored code, and known to have been the fastest to cooperate with NSA etc., it's not clear where your last sentence comes from, that someone would trust MSFT code before Apple and Google code. That said, yes, Windows phone absolutely should have had an enterprise push to appeal to the IT crowd depending on Active Directory, Exchange, Sharepoint, etc. They should have sidestepped the iOS vs Android battle and defined a "blue ocean" strategy with two prongs: (1) corporate/enterprise (targeting IT departments and white collar wage earners), (2) feature/smart phones (targeting kids in those households). While iOS and Android (as seen in Apple, Samsung, and Droid adverts) are competing to be fiercely individualist choices, MSFT should have gone after groups/communities/companies/families. Groupware is a recognized Microsoft strength.
- rdl 13y ago
  The kind of people still using BB7 (in the US/UK/CA are likely to strongly trust NSA, so MS NSA backdoors aren't really a problem; NSA IA review is a feature for them. I agree iOS 7 has the best security and security functionality right now of iOS or Android, but there isn't a single out of the box solution which does what BES/bb7 provides. Setting up Apple's config manager is a pain, and the commercial MDM products aren't amazing.

by rdl 13y ago

gnaffle 13y ago

At least with Apple, I'm pretty sure that if you're an enterprise customer you can run the entire provisioning / update service in-house, including specifying which apps are allowed and how/when they should be updated. I know at least a few big enterprises with high security risk (banks, oil companies) that have allowed iPhones on their networks.

Terretta 13y ago

With iOS 7 supporting per-app VPN, you can couple that with corporate provisioning to require particular apps for company email, messaging, file markup, and require those apps to only work over the company VPN. What's more, given that Microsoft is known to have shipped backdoored code, and known to have been the fastest to cooperate with NSA etc., it's not clear where your last sentence comes from, that someone would trust MSFT code before Apple and Google code. That said, yes, Windows phone absolutely should have had an enterprise push to appeal to the IT crowd depending on Active Directory, Exchange, Sharepoint, etc. They should have sidestepped the iOS vs Android battle and defined a "blue ocean" strategy with two prongs: (1) corporate/enterprise (targeting IT departments and white collar wage earners), (2) feature/smart phones (targeting kids in those households). While iOS and Android (as seen in Apple, Samsung, and Droid adverts) are competing to be fiercely individualist choices, MSFT should have gone after groups/communities/companies/families. Groupware is a recognized Microsoft strength.

rdl 13y ago
The kind of people still using BB7 (in the US/UK/CA are likely to strongly trust NSA, so MS NSA backdoors aren't really a problem; NSA IA review is a feature for them. I agree iOS 7 has the best security and security functionality right now of iOS or Android, but there isn't a single out of the box solution which does what BES/bb7 provides. Setting up Apple's config manager is a pain, and the commercial MDM products aren't amazing.