> In my view, a thing is not ultimately beneficial to a person unless they come to see for themselves how it is a benefit to their lives, via their own independ

> In my view, a thing is not ultimately beneficial to a person unless they come to see for themselves how it is a benefit to their lives, via their own independent judgement. Vaccines. Most people don't spend a lot of time thinking about how they don't have polio. Not having polio benefits you even if you don't think about it. Your being vaccinated against it benefits me even if neither of us think about it. I'd argue not having polio is "ultimately beneficial to a person" regardless of their beliefs about value.