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Sorry to nit pick, but (for example) variables being global by default it's not exactly an epitome of elegance.

• panic 13y ago
  It's the same in JavaScript: x = 5; // global var x = 5; // local Lua just replaces var with local: x = 5 -- global local x = 5 -- local
  • riquito 13y ago
    Whatever javascript does, it does not make Lua's default global variables look any better
    • nilkn 13y ago
      To be fair, using 'local' instead of 'var' does make the situation a lot clearer.
  • icambron 13y ago
    "JavaScript Done Right" requires actually doing it right.
  • woah 13y ago
    'Use strict';
    • catwell 13y ago
      This is actually what we do in Lua, often written `require "pl.strict"`...
• haberman 13y ago
  If you are arguing in favor of "local by default", there are strong arguments against this: http://lua-users.org/wiki/LocalByDefault http://lua-users.org/wiki/LocalByDefault
  • icambron 13y ago
    The parent isn't arguing for local by default, just against global by default. Insomuch as you buy into the arguments in that link, the answer is to do neither (i.e. you must always use "var"). Most of those arguments are actually even more damning to global by default.
    • catwell 13y ago
      I tend to agree with you, but here is the reasoning behind how Lua works: - local by default weakens what you can do with the scope; - we want something by default because the language is used for things like configuration files. The 2nd point means this must be valid: param_1 = "foo" param_2 = "bar" I would personally be happy to sacrifice that feature and add an explicit "global" keyword but not everybody agrees, and it would break a lot of code. What we do instead is use two kinds of tools: static global detectors and strictures (like in Perl). Similar tools are integrated in IDEs as well. With these tools, I have never had an issue with scoping in code I have written. But it takes a little time to get used to it.
      • icambron 13y ago
        > I would personally be happy to sacrifice that feature and add an explicit "global" keyword but not everybody agrees, and it would break a lot of code. For sure. That ship has probably sailed. And, like you said, linters alleviate a lot of that pain. But that's a separate question from, "is this a good language feature?"
  • Grue3 13y ago
    These arguments don't look particularly strong.
  • dukerutledge 13y ago
    Anything by default is idiotic. Lexical scoping works when variables are declared. Lexical scoping becomes a burden when deceleration is not required and variables fall back to some default scope.