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I'm actually impressed at how slanted the title is. Using the words "cartel" and "indoctrinate" hits on two major scare points and we don't even have to read a

I'm actually impressed at how slanted the title is. Using the words "cartel" and "indoctrinate" hits on two major scare points and we don't even have to read a word of the article. Very tough for me to trust what they have to say since they didn't think the words themselves were convincing enough.

emiliobumachar 13y ago
"Cartel" seems like a distortion to me, too, but "indoctrinate" seems like a perfectly valid label for the attempt to systematically teach small children to support a political stance. If you wouldn't call that true indoctrination, what would qualify?
- rayiner 13y ago
  Respecting a widely acknowledged property right isn't a political stance. Nor is it indoctrination to teach kids to respect other peoples work.
  - emiliobumachar 13y ago
    Respecting a widely acknowledged property right is a political stance when widely acknowledged exceptions to that right are left aside. There's also the controversial subtopic of draconian policing of violations of those rights in recent years. Copyright is not a topic for small children. Adults are barely grown up enough to discuss it. EDIT: Forgot to mention the also controversial subtopic of expiration and lack thereof.
  - aric 13y ago
    It is exactly indoctrination.
  - drdeca 13y ago
    If I remember correctly, on the last day of student senate my junior year of high school(the only day I have been to it), they described their plan for the first one or two days of the next year using the term indoctrinate wrt "school spirit". They didn't seem to see anything strange about that. It's possible they used a slightly different word, but I am probably more than 90% sure that at the time I thought they had just said indoctrinate. (note:I am only a senior in highschool, just in case that is useful in explaining why I think things or why I don't have as much experience with things, etc.)
jlangenauer 13y ago
Remember, though, that article titles are often created by sub-editors to be short and pithy, not by the original author of the piece.

emiliobumachar 13y ago

"Cartel" seems like a distortion to me, too, but "indoctrinate" seems like a perfectly valid label for the attempt to systematically teach small children to support a political stance. If you wouldn't call that true indoctrination, what would qualify?

rayiner 13y ago
Respecting a widely acknowledged property right isn't a political stance. Nor is it indoctrination to teach kids to respect other peoples work.
- emiliobumachar 13y ago
  Respecting a widely acknowledged property right is a political stance when widely acknowledged exceptions to that right are left aside. There's also the controversial subtopic of draconian policing of violations of those rights in recent years. Copyright is not a topic for small children. Adults are barely grown up enough to discuss it. EDIT: Forgot to mention the also controversial subtopic of expiration and lack thereof.
- aric 13y ago
  It is exactly indoctrination.
- drdeca 13y ago
  If I remember correctly, on the last day of student senate my junior year of high school(the only day I have been to it), they described their plan for the first one or two days of the next year using the term indoctrinate wrt "school spirit". They didn't seem to see anything strange about that. It's possible they used a slightly different word, but I am probably more than 90% sure that at the time I thought they had just said indoctrinate. (note:I am only a senior in highschool, just in case that is useful in explaining why I think things or why I don't have as much experience with things, etc.)

jlangenauer 13y ago

Remember, though, that article titles are often created by sub-editors to be short and pithy, not by the original author of the piece.