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I don't see what your connection is between people shopping at Trader Joes and people who don't get vaccinated. I can understand being concerned about such "cr

I don't see what your connection is between people shopping at Trader Joes and people who don't get vaccinated. I can understand being concerned about such "crowd services" (although I personally use Airbnb and other such services regularly) but I don't see a basis or reason for that particular association between people who shop at a Trader Joes and people who don't get vaccinated.

endianswap 13y ago
Not the parent, but I bet these findings line up well with Trader Joe's demographics: http://www.immunizationinfo.org/science/demographics-unvaccinated-children http://www.immunizationinfo.org/science/demographics-unvacci...
- NathanKP 13y ago
  Interesting. However that link says only three in one thousand children were completely unvaccinated. The percentage that were under vaccinated is larger but still not that terrible. So even if the demographics of Trader Joe shoppers and unvaccinated people had a 100% match that doesn't mean that someone shopping at Trader Joes is likely to be unvaccinated. The percentage of people who eschew all vaccinations is low enough that the percentage of the unvaccinated shopping at Trader Joes is also likely to be very low.
  - endianswap 13y ago
    Sure, and my point wasn't to necessarily defend the original parent but to see if there's data that would suggest whether there's some cognitive bias here or if the two groups are composed of generally well-overlapped demographics. I'm also not concerned as he is about this problem, just interested in the conversation.
  - drakaal 13y ago
    Hep A isn't a mandatory Vaccine in most places. So most people don't have it. The types that shop at Trader Joe's tend to be the types that reject Adult Vaccines because they think that like Hybrid Crops they are just something cooked up by big companies to make money.
    - mikeash 13y ago
      Are there, in fact, "types that shop at Trader Joe's" beyond people who live near them, people who like saving money on the stuff that TJ's sells cheaply, and people who like quality food?
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- drakaal 13y ago
  I think you are making the very fallacy you are purporting to fight. The fact that there is a "People Of Walmart" site shows that there is a Psychographic that shop at that store that is a high enough percentage of the stores population to be unique. You can't do a study of Obese Women outside the Urban Outfitters because the store doesn't cater to a crowd that is equally represented by the masses. It caters to "Skinny bitches" so your data would be skewed. Trader Joe's caters to a crowd that doesn't like Big Companies, especially Monsanto, and Big Pharma. That makes their crowd less likely to get Adult Vaccines like Hep A. Edit: This was a response to a comment that eshvk made saying that you couldn't categorize a stores shoppers in to a demographic, and that "People of Walmart" didn't represent Walmart shoppers. The author deleted that comment, which was not written as well as I just stated his case. (and has been since been reposted above using something slightly closer to English, but with no more coherent an argument)

endianswap 13y ago

Not the parent, but I bet these findings line up well with Trader Joe's demographics: http://www.immunizationinfo.org/science/demographics-unvaccinated-children http://www.immunizationinfo.org/science/demographics-unvacci...

NathanKP 13y ago
Interesting. However that link says only three in one thousand children were completely unvaccinated. The percentage that were under vaccinated is larger but still not that terrible. So even if the demographics of Trader Joe shoppers and unvaccinated people had a 100% match that doesn't mean that someone shopping at Trader Joes is likely to be unvaccinated. The percentage of people who eschew all vaccinations is low enough that the percentage of the unvaccinated shopping at Trader Joes is also likely to be very low.
- endianswap 13y ago
  Sure, and my point wasn't to necessarily defend the original parent but to see if there's data that would suggest whether there's some cognitive bias here or if the two groups are composed of generally well-overlapped demographics. I'm also not concerned as he is about this problem, just interested in the conversation.
- drakaal 13y ago
  Hep A isn't a mandatory Vaccine in most places. So most people don't have it. The types that shop at Trader Joe's tend to be the types that reject Adult Vaccines because they think that like Hybrid Crops they are just something cooked up by big companies to make money.
  - mikeash 13y ago
    Are there, in fact, "types that shop at Trader Joe's" beyond people who live near them, people who like saving money on the stuff that TJ's sells cheaply, and people who like quality food?

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drakaal 13y ago
I think you are making the very fallacy you are purporting to fight. The fact that there is a "People Of Walmart" site shows that there is a Psychographic that shop at that store that is a high enough percentage of the stores population to be unique. You can't do a study of Obese Women outside the Urban Outfitters because the store doesn't cater to a crowd that is equally represented by the masses. It caters to "Skinny bitches" so your data would be skewed. Trader Joe's caters to a crowd that doesn't like Big Companies, especially Monsanto, and Big Pharma. That makes their crowd less likely to get Adult Vaccines like Hep A. Edit: This was a response to a comment that eshvk made saying that you couldn't categorize a stores shoppers in to a demographic, and that "People of Walmart" didn't represent Walmart shoppers. The author deleted that comment, which was not written as well as I just stated his case. (and has been since been reposted above using something slightly closer to English, but with no more coherent an argument)