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> a sober look at its empirical basis suggests that it is an inverted pyramid, a lot of conclusions perched on flimsy premises Der Spiegel examines the US vs E
by russell 17y ago
> a sober look at its empirical basis suggests that it is an inverted pyramid, a lot of conclusions perched on flimsy premises
Der Spiegel examines the US vs Europe in a large number of dimensions and finds that the US differs far less than one might expect. For example, the white murder rate is less than that of Britain. Or that we are doing pretty well in the pollution department. Even the majority-minority tensions in the US are starting to appear in Europe because of immegration from poorer regions.
- dimitar 17y agoMajority-minority tensions? Is this an euphemism for racism and xenophobia? My observation is that most of us Europeans are pretty racist and xenophobic and big hypocrites about it too. Now, while I will not erase the above, keep in mind that both the EU and US are huge and diverse places and generalizations are generally useless. Huge in different ways and diverse in different ways.
- asdlfj2sd33 17y agoI'm not sure about hypocrisy but it's true Europe is definitely much less tolerant of foreigners. Then again the US is a country of immigrants so it would be a hell of a stretch if it were the other way around.
- russell 17y agoI didnt mean it as an euphemism, maybe a shorhand. The article draws a parallel between racism in the US as a residue of slavery, and xenophobia in Europe as a result of immigration of lower class workers who are different and dont care much about the culture of the host country. Integration in the US has taken huge steps in the last half-century. My ex-wife's relatives were put in US concentration camps in WWII. I remember seeing whites-only and colored signs in the south. I remember the civil rights movement of the 60's and 70's. The article speculated whether European countries are facing the same kind of transition from individual monocultures to diversity. I certainly would welcome any insight you have.
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- asdlfj2sd33 17y agowhite murder rate is less than that of Britain. A couple of things to keep in mind: 1. Britain is a statistical outlier in terms of violent crime rates in Western Europe. 2. The underclass in Britain is much more white then the underclass in the US. The article seems to be cherry picking to minimize differences between the US and Europe.