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I enjoy reading that every generation thought that in 50 years there will be no more conservatives. Every 20 something thinks with absolute certainty that thei

I enjoy reading that every generation thought that in 50 years there will be no more conservatives. Every 20 something thinks with absolute certainty that their political views wont change with age. And that it's only a matter of time until the rest of the world catches up to their 'correct' views.

ck2 13y ago
The problem with just saying "conservative" is there are fiscal conservatives and then there are social conservatives. You think 50 years ago they ever thought there would be gay conservatives? Conservatives that would support gay marriage? So they aren't socially conservative, at least not completely. On the other side, I am not sure how to explain this properly but I find I am less liberal with age but even more progressive.
- eli_gottlieb 13y ago
  Basically, cultural/lifestyle issues, military issues, and economic issues are intertwined, but largely separate. You can be a "fiscal conservative, social liberal" proprietarian, and you can also be a "economic social-democrat, social conservative" (like most of the working-class population in most countries, by the way). Or you can go "full partisan retard", pick one "side" of the "spectrum", and take that "side" on every separate spectrum, thus resulting in the traditional strawmen of "liberals" or "conservatives". Personally, I've actually become more culturally liberal the further I get out of university. College liberals are awful and horrendously stupid to boot, but seeing people who've left their parents' support and still manage to hold liberal positions drives me towards that position. Kind of like how conservatives tend to oppose gay marriage right up until meeting the average actual gay couple, and realizing that, hold on, those "godless liberals" are just like us "normal, decent folk"!
eli_gottlieb 13y ago
I enjoy reading that every generation thought that in 50 years there will be no more conservatives. And in their defense, conservatives have been getting steadily more "liberal" every generation. Even my grandmother doesn't hate other races and ethnicities from us the way her grandmother did. Grandma even crossed one of her our people's real lines by accepting my Christian girlfriend.

ck2 13y ago

The problem with just saying "conservative" is there are fiscal conservatives and then there are social conservatives. You think 50 years ago they ever thought there would be gay conservatives? Conservatives that would support gay marriage? So they aren't socially conservative, at least not completely. On the other side, I am not sure how to explain this properly but I find I am less liberal with age but even more progressive.

eli_gottlieb 13y ago
Basically, cultural/lifestyle issues, military issues, and economic issues are intertwined, but largely separate. You can be a "fiscal conservative, social liberal" proprietarian, and you can also be a "economic social-democrat, social conservative" (like most of the working-class population in most countries, by the way). Or you can go "full partisan retard", pick one "side" of the "spectrum", and take that "side" on every separate spectrum, thus resulting in the traditional strawmen of "liberals" or "conservatives". Personally, I've actually become more culturally liberal the further I get out of university. College liberals are awful and horrendously stupid to boot, but seeing people who've left their parents' support and still manage to hold liberal positions drives me towards that position. Kind of like how conservatives tend to oppose gay marriage right up until meeting the average actual gay couple, and realizing that, hold on, those "godless liberals" are just like us "normal, decent folk"!

eli_gottlieb 13y ago

I enjoy reading that every generation thought that in 50 years there will be no more conservatives. And in their defense, conservatives have been getting steadily more "liberal" every generation. Even my grandmother doesn't hate other races and ethnicities from us the way her grandmother did. Grandma even crossed one of her our people's real lines by accepting my Christian girlfriend.