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How would one play something like Street Fighter with this controller, the button placement seems like it wouldn't allow for a good experience with fighters or

How would one play something like Street Fighter with this controller, the button placement seems like it wouldn't allow for a good experience with fighters or even platformers.

christoph 13y ago
I'm not entirely sure it's been designed with games like that in mind. I imagine the expectation is you use another pad (e.g Xbox controller) for a game like Street Fighter - or in that case, ideally an arcade stick.
- slantyyz 13y ago
  Note that there are also six button fighting pads that should be compatible with the Steam Machines too. The one in particular that I find most interesting is the one for the upcoming Hyperkin RetroN5 -- it's a six button bluetooth controller with a microswitch based thumbpad (much like the ones that came with Neo Geo home units from the 90s). http://hyperkin.com/blog/2013/03/retron-5-details-revealed-from-the-midwest-gaming-classic/ http://hyperkin.com/blog/2013/03/retron-5-details-revealed-f...
- shmoogin 13y ago
  That is not true, it's designed for you to be able to modify the controls.
  - slantyyz 13y ago
    Just because you can modify the controls doesn't mean it's a good controller for all use cases. For example, it would be very difficult to do an ultra move in Street Fighter IV on one of these pads -- i.e., quarter-circle-forward x 2 (LP + MP + HP). A standard d-pad with tactile buttons is much more precise.
    - CatMtKing 13y ago
      How about mapping the triggers to LP/MP/HP and what you would normally have on the triggers to the right trackpad?
      - slantyyz 13y ago
        Might work for some people, but I'm personally used to using a fighting gamepad that has six face buttons in the standard 'Capcom' orientation. People who learned Capcom fighting games on normal pads are usually OK with triggers, but I learned on a stick, so using the triggers goes against my muscle memory as I still use a stick regularly as well. My fighting pad, however, is much more portable than my stick.
slantyyz 13y ago
Yeah, this controller is definitely for "PC type" gamers. Most fighting gamers prefer to use wired USB fighting sticks anyways, and given that those sticks tend to work out of the box on most operating systems, I would expect them to work on the Steam Machines too. IIRC, Steam only really has three modern fighting games (SFIV:AE2012, SF vs Tekken and KoF13) -- I don't know that Capcom or SNK would plan to port those Windows games over to Linux anyways -- you'd likely have to play them streamed, and I'm not sure that any serious fighting gamer would want to do that.
metaphorm 13y ago
I think it will work very well for platformers actually. Those games usually have just 2-4 buttons. There are definitely 4 easily accessible front face buttons. Fighting games will probably still require an arcade stick. I've tried playing these games with an Xbox controller, and while it certainly works better than a keyboard, it still sucks. Gotta have the stick.
lnanek2 13y ago
Map positions on the right touchpad to buttons?

How would one play something like Street Fighter with this controller, the button placement seems like it wouldn't allow for a good experience with fighters or even platformers.

christoph 13y ago

I'm not entirely sure it's been designed with games like that in mind. I imagine the expectation is you use another pad (e.g Xbox controller) for a game like Street Fighter - or in that case, ideally an arcade stick.

slantyyz 13y ago
Note that there are also six button fighting pads that should be compatible with the Steam Machines too. The one in particular that I find most interesting is the one for the upcoming Hyperkin RetroN5 -- it's a six button bluetooth controller with a microswitch based thumbpad (much like the ones that came with Neo Geo home units from the 90s). http://hyperkin.com/blog/2013/03/retron-5-details-revealed-from-the-midwest-gaming-classic/ http://hyperkin.com/blog/2013/03/retron-5-details-revealed-f...
shmoogin 13y ago
That is not true, it's designed for you to be able to modify the controls.
- slantyyz 13y ago
  Just because you can modify the controls doesn't mean it's a good controller for all use cases. For example, it would be very difficult to do an ultra move in Street Fighter IV on one of these pads -- i.e., quarter-circle-forward x 2 (LP + MP + HP). A standard d-pad with tactile buttons is much more precise.
  - CatMtKing 13y ago
    How about mapping the triggers to LP/MP/HP and what you would normally have on the triggers to the right trackpad?
    - slantyyz 13y ago
      Might work for some people, but I'm personally used to using a fighting gamepad that has six face buttons in the standard 'Capcom' orientation. People who learned Capcom fighting games on normal pads are usually OK with triggers, but I learned on a stick, so using the triggers goes against my muscle memory as I still use a stick regularly as well. My fighting pad, however, is much more portable than my stick.

slantyyz 13y ago

Yeah, this controller is definitely for "PC type" gamers. Most fighting gamers prefer to use wired USB fighting sticks anyways, and given that those sticks tend to work out of the box on most operating systems, I would expect them to work on the Steam Machines too. IIRC, Steam only really has three modern fighting games (SFIV:AE2012, SF vs Tekken and KoF13) -- I don't know that Capcom or SNK would plan to port those Windows games over to Linux anyways -- you'd likely have to play them streamed, and I'm not sure that any serious fighting gamer would want to do that.

metaphorm 13y ago

I think it will work very well for platformers actually. Those games usually have just 2-4 buttons. There are definitely 4 easily accessible front face buttons. Fighting games will probably still require an arcade stick. I've tried playing these games with an Xbox controller, and while it certainly works better than a keyboard, it still sucks. Gotta have the stick.

lnanek2 13y ago

Map positions on the right touchpad to buttons?