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? > mouse. Do you really think that the mouse which was invented in the 60s (mother of all demos) is the pinnacle of technology regarding input? It is for now

by nekopa 13y ago

? > mouse. Do you really think that the mouse which was invented in the 60s (mother of all demos) is the pinnacle of technology regarding input? It is for now (I do agree with your premise for my own personal reasons) but such a bold expression seems a little, how should I put this, small minded. I feel this is an interesting direction to experiment on.

Miyamoto 13y ago
> Do you really think that the mouse which was invented in the 60s (mother of all demos) is the pinnacle of technology regarding input? You're kind of pushing what he said. He's referring to gaming, and probably shooter games. A mouse is definitely the most precise input device for shooters, or else you'd see professional eSport FPS players using laptop trackpads.
- inerte 13y ago
  And Valve kinda says it: "the Steam Controller’s resolution approaches that of a desktop mouse"
wnevets 13y ago
For gaming (this is gaming related news after all) my benchmark will always be who would win in quake or counter strike with everything else (player skill, weapons, etc) being equal. The mouse currently dominates all forms of commercial gaming input.
jlgreco 13y ago
> Do you really think that the mouse which was invented in the 60s (mother of all demos) is the pinnacle of technology regarding input? The joystick was invented in 1908, but it is still in fighter jets today, isn't it? Who gives a shit how old it is?
- nekopa 13y ago
  Ok, you all misunderstood what I was trying to say, which means I said it badly. What I was hinting at is that though the mouse is currently the best form of input for a lot of games (ANSI the reason why I don't have a console, I don't like gaming without a mouse), does that mean we should stop trying to find other forms of input device? I didn't mean the age statement negatively, just to point out we've had this tech for a while, so maybe it's time to look for other ways to go, instead of 'building a faster horse'. In 2060 who knows what will be the top form of input for gaming. It might be this controller, it could still be the mouse or it may be something we haven't even dreamt of yet.
  - wnevets 13y ago
    I wasn't suggesting that we stop trying to come up with new tech. In fact I'm quite interested in what valve is trying to do. Despite not even trying it I think their track-pad controller will be better than analog stick controllers. When I said track > analog sticks I didn't mean laptop track pads but valve's. However not even valve is suggesting its better than the mouse for games like counter-strike or dota2

by nekopa 13y ago

Miyamoto 13y ago

> Do you really think that the mouse which was invented in the 60s (mother of all demos) is the pinnacle of technology regarding input? You're kind of pushing what he said. He's referring to gaming, and probably shooter games. A mouse is definitely the most precise input device for shooters, or else you'd see professional eSport FPS players using laptop trackpads.

inerte 13y ago
And Valve kinda says it: "the Steam Controller’s resolution approaches that of a desktop mouse"

wnevets 13y ago

For gaming (this is gaming related news after all) my benchmark will always be who would win in quake or counter strike with everything else (player skill, weapons, etc) being equal. The mouse currently dominates all forms of commercial gaming input.

jlgreco 13y ago

> Do you really think that the mouse which was invented in the 60s (mother of all demos) is the pinnacle of technology regarding input? The joystick was invented in 1908, but it is still in fighter jets today, isn't it? Who gives a shit how old it is?

nekopa 13y ago
Ok, you all misunderstood what I was trying to say, which means I said it badly. What I was hinting at is that though the mouse is currently the best form of input for a lot of games (ANSI the reason why I don't have a console, I don't like gaming without a mouse), does that mean we should stop trying to find other forms of input device? I didn't mean the age statement negatively, just to point out we've had this tech for a while, so maybe it's time to look for other ways to go, instead of 'building a faster horse'. In 2060 who knows what will be the top form of input for gaming. It might be this controller, it could still be the mouse or it may be something we haven't even dreamt of yet.
- wnevets 13y ago
  I wasn't suggesting that we stop trying to come up with new tech. In fact I'm quite interested in what valve is trying to do. Despite not even trying it I think their track-pad controller will be better than analog stick controllers. When I said track > analog sticks I didn't mean laptop track pads but valve's. However not even valve is suggesting its better than the mouse for games like counter-strike or dota2