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Speaking on innovation, the Xbox 360 came out with a brand new controller, but the Xbox One has practically the same controller? It's like they didn't take any

by Osiris 13y ago

Speaking on innovation, the Xbox 360 came out with a brand new controller, but the Xbox One has practically the same controller? It's like they didn't take any time to re-evaluate the controller with the new console. For that matter, the PS4 controller is the same except with a small touchpad in the middle.

scrabble 13y ago
In their defense the 360's controller is considered an amazing controller already, so I understand them only making incremental improvements.
- pyrocat 13y ago
  That's really the larger point here. The 360 controller is the standard now, trying to improve upon it when the market is already flooded with that style controller would be a losing battle for Valve. They decided to take a risk and innovate, but it was pretty much their only viable option if they wanted to enter the controller market.
georgemcbay 13y ago
"the Xbox 360 came out with a brand new controller, but the Xbox One has practically the same controller" Calling the 360 controller "brand new" is a big stretch. It wasn't that much more different from the old Xbox Controller S than the Xbox One controller is from the 360's. In terms of technology the One controller with trigger-specific haptic is actually a bigger change than the Controller S->360 which was pretty much just button layout changes. In any case, if something works well, why change it just for change's sake? I love Valve and I'm excited to try this controller, but put me on the list of people that are very skeptical this will actually be an improvement for the types of games that play well with two analog sticks.
- nickik 13y ago
  Yeah. I agree. I always liked the Xbox controllers and the Xbox One Controller seams like a nice evolution. They have done nothing revolutionary of course but nice stady evolution. There first controller was complet BS of course but after that it was pretty good, better then sony in my mind.
mikelat 13y ago
They were busy trying to shift to a closed digital distribution platform, which gamers hanged them for. Granted their intentions were for their own profit margins and not at all for the consumer in mind, but things like that probably make them less likely to take risks in the future.
- chokolad 13y ago
  They tried to shift to "Steam"-style distribution platform.
f00_ 13y ago
They didn't need to innovate with the controller, their controller is the standard. They improved in all aspects that they needed to, i.e. the d-pad, and then fixed some ergonomics. The PS3 controller, however, was kind of awful in comparison. Really light, horrible triggers. And they fixed that. Saying the new controllers are the same except the features they have for the sake of marketing (Touchpad, and rumble triggers) is disingenuous.

by Osiris 13y ago

scrabble 13y ago

In their defense the 360's controller is considered an amazing controller already, so I understand them only making incremental improvements.

pyrocat 13y ago
That's really the larger point here. The 360 controller is the standard now, trying to improve upon it when the market is already flooded with that style controller would be a losing battle for Valve. They decided to take a risk and innovate, but it was pretty much their only viable option if they wanted to enter the controller market.

georgemcbay 13y ago

"the Xbox 360 came out with a brand new controller, but the Xbox One has practically the same controller" Calling the 360 controller "brand new" is a big stretch. It wasn't that much more different from the old Xbox Controller S than the Xbox One controller is from the 360's. In terms of technology the One controller with trigger-specific haptic is actually a bigger change than the Controller S->360 which was pretty much just button layout changes. In any case, if something works well, why change it just for change's sake? I love Valve and I'm excited to try this controller, but put me on the list of people that are very skeptical this will actually be an improvement for the types of games that play well with two analog sticks.

nickik 13y ago
Yeah. I agree. I always liked the Xbox controllers and the Xbox One Controller seams like a nice evolution. They have done nothing revolutionary of course but nice stady evolution. There first controller was complet BS of course but after that it was pretty good, better then sony in my mind.

mikelat 13y ago

They were busy trying to shift to a closed digital distribution platform, which gamers hanged them for. Granted their intentions were for their own profit margins and not at all for the consumer in mind, but things like that probably make them less likely to take risks in the future.

chokolad 13y ago
They tried to shift to "Steam"-style distribution platform.

f00_ 13y ago

They didn't need to innovate with the controller, their controller is the standard. They improved in all aspects that they needed to, i.e. the d-pad, and then fixed some ergonomics. The PS3 controller, however, was kind of awful in comparison. Really light, horrible triggers. And they fixed that. Saying the new controllers are the same except the features they have for the sake of marketing (Touchpad, and rumble triggers) is disingenuous.