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3) "more than" Seriously, go back and read what you wrote. (EDIT: Well, this comment makes no sense without seeing what I replied to)

by smtddr 13y ago

irahul 13y ago
Out of curiosity(and I am being amused and enraged at the same time at the world changing "idea" guy and 80 hours/week) what did the comment you replied to said?
- smtddr 13y ago
  Nothing special, he said something like: "I don't know what you're all upset about. I only mentioned 2 things: 1)work 2)forty hours a week" So I replied "3)more than", referring to the original comment he made that was linked[1] in this thread. 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6454520 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6454520
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- smtddr 13y ago
  I would never hire someone that complained that more than 40 hours/week was too much ^ If you actually meant that and structure your hiring-process to match, I'd say it's illegal - at least in USA. EDIT: I was about to post your HN-account details in this comment, but I see you just now removed your name & company-name from your profile info. EDIT#2: And now you deleted the comment I was replying to!!! EDIT#3: Ah! But another user was smarter & faster than me and got the info already! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6454675 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6454675 ...and you can't alter anything in that day-old thread. EDIT#4: http://i.imgur.com/2hsWCWG.png http://i.imgur.com/2hsWCWG.png Okay, I'm done here. I fully expect to read a front-page news article about this person a few days from now.
  - nhangen 13y ago
    Yeah I did delete them after I realized people like you weren't interested in having a discussion, but instead were looking to start a flame war. Why would you expect to read an article about this? If your comments are any indication, I am not in the minority on this subject. Edit: This is exactly why I deleted the comments. I can't even explain myself without getting downvoted. If anyone wants to have a debate about it, I'm happy to do that, but I'm not going to engage in a poo flinging contest.
    - noonespecial 13y ago
      I'm with you. It shouldn't be illegal to ask someone to work 60hrs/week. Provided you inform them that this is desired of them UP FRONT during the hiring process. People should be free to work and hire based on their own situations. I would also recommend paying about 1.75X "market rate" (which assumes the 40 hour week) to attract candidates worth hiring. Overtime is as overtime does.
    - rhizome 13y ago
      Either you're imagining a flame war in those comments, or you're working with a different definition. Do you tell people before they receive their offer letter that you expect more than 40hrs/wk?
    - rickhanlonii 13y ago
      I don't have a horse in this race; I don't care if your point is right or wrong. But as an outside observer, I have to tell you: the way you've carried yourself in this thread should be embarrassing to you. It's not that people weren't interested in having a discussion with you here--it's that you seem to be incapable of taking criticism (regardless of how accurate or inaccurate it is) and your immediate reaction was defensive and over-the-top smugness rather than trying to understanding their point and addressing it on it's merits. I would never work for you just from this thread alone. Deleting out of embarrassment was probably you're best option, but this should make you really consider what another commenter said: "you might benefit from some introspection."

3) "more than" Seriously, go back and read what you wrote. (EDIT: Well, this comment makes no sense without seeing what I replied to)

by smtddr 13y ago

3) "more than" Seriously, go back and read what you wrote. (EDIT: Well, this comment makes no sense without seeing what I replied to)

irahul 13y ago

Out of curiosity(and I am being amused and enraged at the same time at the world changing "idea" guy and 80 hours/week) what did the comment you replied to said?

smtddr 13y ago
Nothing special, he said something like: "I don't know what you're all upset about. I only mentioned 2 things: 1)work 2)forty hours a week" So I replied "3)more than", referring to the original comment he made that was linked[1] in this thread. 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6454520 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6454520

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smtddr 13y ago
I would never hire someone that complained that more than 40 hours/week was too much ^ If you actually meant that and structure your hiring-process to match, I'd say it's illegal - at least in USA. EDIT: I was about to post your HN-account details in this comment, but I see you just now removed your name & company-name from your profile info. EDIT#2: And now you deleted the comment I was replying to!!! EDIT#3: Ah! But another user was smarter & faster than me and got the info already! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6454675 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6454675 ...and you can't alter anything in that day-old thread. EDIT#4: http://i.imgur.com/2hsWCWG.png http://i.imgur.com/2hsWCWG.png Okay, I'm done here. I fully expect to read a front-page news article about this person a few days from now.
- nhangen 13y ago
  Yeah I did delete them after I realized people like you weren't interested in having a discussion, but instead were looking to start a flame war. Why would you expect to read an article about this? If your comments are any indication, I am not in the minority on this subject. Edit: This is exactly why I deleted the comments. I can't even explain myself without getting downvoted. If anyone wants to have a debate about it, I'm happy to do that, but I'm not going to engage in a poo flinging contest.
  - noonespecial 13y ago
    I'm with you. It shouldn't be illegal to ask someone to work 60hrs/week. Provided you inform them that this is desired of them UP FRONT during the hiring process. People should be free to work and hire based on their own situations. I would also recommend paying about 1.75X "market rate" (which assumes the 40 hour week) to attract candidates worth hiring. Overtime is as overtime does.
  - rhizome 13y ago
    Either you're imagining a flame war in those comments, or you're working with a different definition. Do you tell people before they receive their offer letter that you expect more than 40hrs/wk?
  - rickhanlonii 13y ago
    I don't have a horse in this race; I don't care if your point is right or wrong. But as an outside observer, I have to tell you: the way you've carried yourself in this thread should be embarrassing to you. It's not that people weren't interested in having a discussion with you here--it's that you seem to be incapable of taking criticism (regardless of how accurate or inaccurate it is) and your immediate reaction was defensive and over-the-top smugness rather than trying to understanding their point and addressing it on it's merits. I would never work for you just from this thread alone. Deleting out of embarrassment was probably you're best option, but this should make you really consider what another commenter said: "you might benefit from some introspection."