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USA has the highest incarceration rate than any country in the world. I have lived in USA for 12 years of my life, perception of having freedom and actually hav

by pavs 13y ago

USA has the highest incarceration rate than any country in the world. I have lived in USA for 12 years of my life, perception of having freedom and actually having freedom is not the same thing. At least from my experience I can tell you that most americans don't even know the difference. So much so that most americans will somehow find a justification for all the international crimes against humanity that the american government has done over so many years, sleeping well at night thinking their government actually cares about them and their flimsy perception of freedom.

ianstallings 13y ago
Well, why don't you pack your stuff up and go home? It's terrible here after all. It gets old, people coming to the US because they see opportunity, and then being entitled sanctimonious fools. Never lifting a hand to make it better, but quick to pipe up when it's time to critique, making broad statements about how everyone here is so misinformed. You think the average person in China is any different than the average American? Over 110M+ Chinese people can't even read. I really doubt they are over contemplating all of the human-rights abuses in the world by nation-states, including their own. And I bet they sleep just fine too.
- pavs 13y ago
  I did pack my stuff and go home... But something to remember, having a problem with the American Government doesn't mean having a problem with the american people. Too many people confuses that.
  - ianstallings 13y ago
    You weren't talking about the American Government when you said "most Americans" and then went on to basically say that their attitude is disgusting. I didn't confuse anything.
    - pavs 13y ago
      Lets break it down and I am sure I might have been a little confusing myself. - I condemn the American Government. - I condemn most of the American people for their general apathy towards the human rights violations of their government both outside and inside their country. - But I also realize that the American Government have most americans either too busy, too distracted or have them misinformed through propaganda campaign to have any serious widespread opposition to their action. The Government have all powerful multiple secret service organization that works full time to make sure there is no serious threat to the government status quo (among other things), under the pretence of national security. - I can go on say that the actions of the government should not make the people of the country complacent of their crimes. After many generations of the same old foreign policy, this line of talk starts of get a little old, at some point someone need to stand up say you should also be just as liable as your government because even after knowing their crimes, you didn't do anything about it. So yes, I do have a problem with the American Government, and I do think most americans are fault for not checking their government - BUT I don't have any problem with american people in general.
      - ianstallings 13y ago
        Well I agree with a lot of what you said there, almost all of it in fact. I do think we have problems and I do hate the apathy also. I am very critical of government and when I see others ignoring issues I get incredibly annoyed. Now that you've expounded on it I think I agree. At first I took it as just another guy bashing the US, which these days is an easy target. But I was wrong.

by pavs 13y ago

ianstallings 13y ago

Well, why don't you pack your stuff up and go home? It's terrible here after all. It gets old, people coming to the US because they see opportunity, and then being entitled sanctimonious fools. Never lifting a hand to make it better, but quick to pipe up when it's time to critique, making broad statements about how everyone here is so misinformed. You think the average person in China is any different than the average American? Over 110M+ Chinese people can't even read. I really doubt they are over contemplating all of the human-rights abuses in the world by nation-states, including their own. And I bet they sleep just fine too.

pavs 13y ago
I did pack my stuff and go home... But something to remember, having a problem with the American Government doesn't mean having a problem with the american people. Too many people confuses that.
- ianstallings 13y ago
  You weren't talking about the American Government when you said "most Americans" and then went on to basically say that their attitude is disgusting. I didn't confuse anything.
  - pavs 13y ago
    Lets break it down and I am sure I might have been a little confusing myself. - I condemn the American Government. - I condemn most of the American people for their general apathy towards the human rights violations of their government both outside and inside their country. - But I also realize that the American Government have most americans either too busy, too distracted or have them misinformed through propaganda campaign to have any serious widespread opposition to their action. The Government have all powerful multiple secret service organization that works full time to make sure there is no serious threat to the government status quo (among other things), under the pretence of national security. - I can go on say that the actions of the government should not make the people of the country complacent of their crimes. After many generations of the same old foreign policy, this line of talk starts of get a little old, at some point someone need to stand up say you should also be just as liable as your government because even after knowing their crimes, you didn't do anything about it. So yes, I do have a problem with the American Government, and I do think most americans are fault for not checking their government - BUT I don't have any problem with american people in general.
    - ianstallings 13y ago
      Well I agree with a lot of what you said there, almost all of it in fact. I do think we have problems and I do hate the apathy also. I am very critical of government and when I see others ignoring issues I get incredibly annoyed. Now that you've expounded on it I think I agree. At first I took it as just another guy bashing the US, which these days is an easy target. But I was wrong.