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The device rips off everything innovative about the iPhone including the accelerometer I know of at least 1 situation where that's just not the case. Nokia's

by froo 17y ago

The device rips off everything innovative about the iPhone including the accelerometer I know of at least 1 situation where that's just not the case. Nokia's n95 has an accelerometer and shipped months before the first gen iphone shipped, with it being unveiled months prior to the iphone announcement as well. The rest of your argument sounds like fanboyism or trolling... I can't decide which, but I'm leaning towards the latter given you want a phone with a holographic projector? Sure you don't want to add in a time machine and candy dispenser into the device too?

Flankk 17y ago
You are missing the point. The Pre is an attempt to clone all the features of the iPhone. The argument is how many features Palm copies from the iPhone, not whether the features were unique to the iPhone. I was being facetious about the holographic projector. Label me as a fanboy if you think that helps your argument.
- froo 17y ago
  I saw your point, I just think that given that mobile phones are now a platform instead of just a device, of course they're going to be influenced by many other devices out there. The fact is, that the iPhone didn't "invent" all this stuff, the ideas existed out there in other platforms and across many devices (even touch surfaces and multitouch existed long before the iphone interface). They simply took all of the ideas that were good and incorporated them into a handheld device. Touch Screen with multitouch, demo'd at TED in feb 2006 (http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/jeff_han_demos_his_breakthrough_touchscreen.html http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/jeff_han_demos_his_breakt...) App Store - Valve's Steam is an equivalent Ambient Light Sensor - Blackberry's have had this feature for years. See, all of these ideas were out there years before the first gen iPhone came out. Apple just managed to get put together a device that was completely different from what the norm was and guess what - it took off. Of course they're going to get copied if the device is a success. I just wish they would bite the bullet and add more features rather than saving up easily added stuff for later generations of devices, just to milk it for everything it's worth and make the iphone a mobile standard rather than an option. Essentially do what MS did to Apple with the PC, just with the mobile device and do it to the mobile companies.

by froo 17y ago

Flankk 17y ago

You are missing the point. The Pre is an attempt to clone all the features of the iPhone. The argument is how many features Palm copies from the iPhone, not whether the features were unique to the iPhone. I was being facetious about the holographic projector. Label me as a fanboy if you think that helps your argument.

froo 17y ago
I saw your point, I just think that given that mobile phones are now a platform instead of just a device, of course they're going to be influenced by many other devices out there. The fact is, that the iPhone didn't "invent" all this stuff, the ideas existed out there in other platforms and across many devices (even touch surfaces and multitouch existed long before the iphone interface). They simply took all of the ideas that were good and incorporated them into a handheld device. Touch Screen with multitouch, demo'd at TED in feb 2006 (http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/jeff_han_demos_his_breakthrough_touchscreen.html http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/jeff_han_demos_his_breakt...) App Store - Valve's Steam is an equivalent Ambient Light Sensor - Blackberry's have had this feature for years. See, all of these ideas were out there years before the first gen iPhone came out. Apple just managed to get put together a device that was completely different from what the norm was and guess what - it took off. Of course they're going to get copied if the device is a success. I just wish they would bite the bullet and add more features rather than saving up easily added stuff for later generations of devices, just to milk it for everything it's worth and make the iphone a mobile standard rather than an option. Essentially do what MS did to Apple with the PC, just with the mobile device and do it to the mobile companies.