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This might be heresy being that I'm a GNOME foundation member, but at first I did not much like GNOME 3 at all. After about 3.4 it started having the polish I e

by SEJeff 13y ago

This might be heresy being that I'm a GNOME foundation member, but at first I did not much like GNOME 3 at all. After about 3.4 it started having the polish I expected. Now, I actually really enjoy using it. The extensions are super nice and having an interactive javascript console to extend / hack on your window manager is super nifty (if you know javascript of course). All in all, I think it is quite solid. Currently I use Fedora 18 for most of my workstations, but just updated my home desktop to Fedora 19 and notice they have the "GNOME Classic" option, which is essentially a beefed up version of the fallback mode. If you prefer GNOME 2.x, take a shot at installing Fedora 19 or 20 if you like to live on the edge. Login to the GNOME Classic session (click the sessions button in the login screen) and try it out. I think you might actually like it. As an eternal sceptic of new things tech who really didn't much care for GNOME 3.x at first, I've actually fallen in love with it. Can't say I have any issues at all other than it doesn't do amazing with 9 monitors, but how many OSS devs have setups like that ;D

therealunreal 13y ago
Two slightly OT questions, if you don't mind: a) How did you manage 9 monitors? b) Any good solution to moving windows to the next/previous/up/down monitor?
- Nux 13y ago
  For "b" I use a combination of xdotool & wmctrl to move stuff between the monitors without the use of mouse.
  - ronjouch 13y ago
    Interesting; would you share these scripts?
    - Nux 13y ago
      Sure, this is what I use now: http://dl.nux.ro/utils/movewin.sh http://dl.nux.ro/utils/movewin.sh
- SEJeff 13y ago
  Expensive and modern video cards and a company that lets me test exotic hardware desktop setups. My standard desktop I'm typing from now has 6 monitors for instance. We can get as many as we want if they help us do our job. I work for a finance company, thats about all I'll detail :) For moving the windows, I drag them. It isn't that difficult.
Nux 13y ago
Gnome 3 sucks without good graphics drivers, it's very laggy and feels heavy. On my laptop with Radeon HD 3200 using the open source drivers (from Fedora 19) it's hardly usable and spins the hell out of the fans. Thanks god for MATE.
- rbanffy 13y ago
  Running it on an Atom with Intel graphics here (netbook driving decent monitor). Works well as long as I don't have three open Gmail tabs. The Radeon drivers must be terrible.
  - jlgreco 13y ago
    I bopped around in it for a few minutes on my Atom/Intel graphics EeePC and found it unbearably heavyweight compared to Awesome. I don't know what they are doing wrong, but merely interacting with a bunch of xterms with it was unbearable. Maybe you are just use to it.
    - rbanffy 13y ago
      It sure feels heavy compared to CDE or twm either, but that's hardly fair.
      - jlgreco 13y ago
        I think it is eminently fair. It isn't performing a fundamentally different task, but it stutters and burns lower powered machines up.
  - qwerta 13y ago
    Radeon opensource drivers are just fine. KDE with composite WM runs smoothly. Sometimes I play heavy games with Wine (Civ4, Stalker...). And did I mention resolution: 3000x1600
- Jasper_ 13y ago
  We're always trying to work better with graphics drivers, and I personally wrote a bunch of of patches this cycle to help with performance. If you're still having issues, please file bugs with the radeon driver and with us. I also sit twenty feet from the the lead radeon driver developer, so I'll ask him tomorrow if there's anything we can do to help him out.

by SEJeff 13y ago

therealunreal 13y ago

Two slightly OT questions, if you don't mind: a) How did you manage 9 monitors? b) Any good solution to moving windows to the next/previous/up/down monitor?

Nux 13y ago
For "b" I use a combination of xdotool & wmctrl to move stuff between the monitors without the use of mouse.
- ronjouch 13y ago
  Interesting; would you share these scripts?
  - Nux 13y ago
    Sure, this is what I use now: http://dl.nux.ro/utils/movewin.sh http://dl.nux.ro/utils/movewin.sh
SEJeff 13y ago
Expensive and modern video cards and a company that lets me test exotic hardware desktop setups. My standard desktop I'm typing from now has 6 monitors for instance. We can get as many as we want if they help us do our job. I work for a finance company, thats about all I'll detail :) For moving the windows, I drag them. It isn't that difficult.

Nux 13y ago

Gnome 3 sucks without good graphics drivers, it's very laggy and feels heavy. On my laptop with Radeon HD 3200 using the open source drivers (from Fedora 19) it's hardly usable and spins the hell out of the fans. Thanks god for MATE.

rbanffy 13y ago
Running it on an Atom with Intel graphics here (netbook driving decent monitor). Works well as long as I don't have three open Gmail tabs. The Radeon drivers must be terrible.
- jlgreco 13y ago
  I bopped around in it for a few minutes on my Atom/Intel graphics EeePC and found it unbearably heavyweight compared to Awesome. I don't know what they are doing wrong, but merely interacting with a bunch of xterms with it was unbearable. Maybe you are just use to it.
  - rbanffy 13y ago
    It sure feels heavy compared to CDE or twm either, but that's hardly fair.
    - jlgreco 13y ago
      I think it is eminently fair. It isn't performing a fundamentally different task, but it stutters and burns lower powered machines up.
- qwerta 13y ago
  Radeon opensource drivers are just fine. KDE with composite WM runs smoothly. Sometimes I play heavy games with Wine (Civ4, Stalker...). And did I mention resolution: 3000x1600
Jasper_ 13y ago
We're always trying to work better with graphics drivers, and I personally wrote a bunch of of patches this cycle to help with performance. If you're still having issues, please file bugs with the radeon driver and with us. I also sit twenty feet from the the lead radeon driver developer, so I'll ask him tomorrow if there's anything we can do to help him out.