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I have to object to The Guardian's use of scare quotes in the title. You need to read more on the subject then. They have a very different definition of human

I have to object to The Guardian's use of scare quotes in the title. You need to read more on the subject then. They have a very different definition of human rights in that part of the world. http://www.bing.com/search?q=maid+abuse+arab+countries http://www.bing.com/search?q=maid+abuse+arab+countries

jlgreco 13y ago
So did The South. I don't care what they think, I consider it slavery, and so should everybody. Cultural relativism can go to hell when we are talking about fucking forced labor. I am not going to dampen my language just because they think forced labor is just fine, and neither should The Guardian.
- bsullivan01 13y ago
  Huh? You objected to Guardian using "scare quotes" or something and I told that this type of abuse happens there all the time. Human rights don't exist.In fact, several of them have been arrested for pulling the same crap in USA http://www.kbur.com/2013/09/20/saudi-princess-scheduled-to-be-arraigned-on-charge-of-trafficking-kenyan-maid-in-us/ http://www.kbur.com/2013/09/20/saudi-princess-scheduled-to-b...
  - jlgreco 13y ago
    "Scare quotes are quotation marks placed around a word or phrase to imply that it may not signify its apparent meaning or that it is not necessarily the way the quoting person would express its concept. Thus, the quotes are used to establish a use–mention distinction, in a similar way as verbally prefixing a phrase with "so-called". When referred to as "scare quotes", the quotation marks are suggested to imply skepticism or disagreement with the quoted terminology." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes
    - bsullivan01 13y ago
      Well, to be exact they are not real slaves http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery , at least in the way slavery existed in USA.
      - jlgreco 13y ago
        See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6446535 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6446535
      - moocowduckquack 13y ago
        You can always narrow a concept to exclude members of a set if you are allowed to declare your preferred definition, but the general use of the word slave obviously includes forced labourers who are being denied wages and held against their will while being worked to death and denied water, to argue otherwise would seem to make an utter mockery of the term.

jlgreco 13y ago

So did The South. I don't care what they think, I consider it slavery, and so should everybody. Cultural relativism can go to hell when we are talking about fucking forced labor. I am not going to dampen my language just because they think forced labor is just fine, and neither should The Guardian.

bsullivan01 13y ago
Huh? You objected to Guardian using "scare quotes" or something and I told that this type of abuse happens there all the time. Human rights don't exist.In fact, several of them have been arrested for pulling the same crap in USA http://www.kbur.com/2013/09/20/saudi-princess-scheduled-to-be-arraigned-on-charge-of-trafficking-kenyan-maid-in-us/ http://www.kbur.com/2013/09/20/saudi-princess-scheduled-to-b...
- jlgreco 13y ago
  "Scare quotes are quotation marks placed around a word or phrase to imply that it may not signify its apparent meaning or that it is not necessarily the way the quoting person would express its concept. Thus, the quotes are used to establish a use–mention distinction, in a similar way as verbally prefixing a phrase with "so-called". When referred to as "scare quotes", the quotation marks are suggested to imply skepticism or disagreement with the quoted terminology." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes
  - bsullivan01 13y ago
    Well, to be exact they are not real slaves http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery , at least in the way slavery existed in USA.
    - jlgreco 13y ago
      See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6446535 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6446535
    - moocowduckquack 13y ago
      You can always narrow a concept to exclude members of a set if you are allowed to declare your preferred definition, but the general use of the word slave obviously includes forced labourers who are being denied wages and held against their will while being worked to death and denied water, to argue otherwise would seem to make an utter mockery of the term.