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Retraining the brain is difficult in almost any facet. I tried switching keyboard layouts once, suffice it to say I've reverted to ye olde QWERTY.

by saym 13y ago

yareally 13y ago
For what it's worth, I used Eclipse for 3-4 years before Intellij (it was what my university introduced students to for programming in C++ and Java). Switching to Intellij was pretty painless other than initial configuration overload (since there's so much more built into it by default than Eclipse). Having to switch back to Eclipse at times for a few things since was not so much. Intellij just as a much more intuitive UI and layout. Eclipse is fine if you're used to it, but it's much more dissociative by design when switching languages or usages than Intellij.
- mikevm 13y ago
  IntelliJ has such an ugly font rendering system on Windows that it makes it very hard for me to dump Eclipse. This prolly has to do with Eclipse's native font rendering.
  - yareally 13y ago
    Yeah, it's not too great due to relying on the JVM for rendering. I use Liberation Mono with it and it looks pretty good (even with anti-aliasing set to off). Everything else, not so much. The top image[1] at the Slant programming font rank list[2] was a screenshot I took of Liberation Mono when using Intellij on Windows, just to give an example. I miss having bitmap fonts (which Eclipse does allow), but Liberation looks close enough to my favorite bitmap font (Dina), that I don't mind anymore. [1] http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3066/pythono.jpg http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3066/pythono.jpg (anti-aliasing was set to off when that was taken; italics suffer, but it's tolerable to me) [2] http://www.slant.co/topics/67/viewpoints/26/~what-are-the-best-programming-fonts~liberation-mono http://www.slant.co/topics/67/viewpoints/26/~what-are-the-be...
- lenkite 13y ago
  But the Intellij editor has some noticeable deficiencies. You cannot tab out of auto-completed text (parenthesis, quotes, etc). This feature is a major time-saver and if you are familiar with this feature in eclipse/visual studio/sublime text, you can find yourself handicapped in Intellij.
  - yareally 13y ago
    Can you clarify what you mean? When I hit tab in visual studio it creates a tab in between a set of quotes (e.g. Console.Write("blah blah "); ) It could be because I'm using resharper, but just curious what the feature is you mention. Hitting the literal key that closes the completion (e.g. " or ) ) jumps out of the quote without adding another ) or " though.
    - yareally 13y ago
      Too late to edit my post, but you can complete the current line (in quotes or parentheses) by pressing ctrl+shift+enter, which jumps the cursor to the next line below. Works for Intellij or Visual Studio with Resharper.
AndyKelley 13y ago
it just takes time :) https://s3.amazonaws.com/superjoe/temp/dvorak.png https://s3.amazonaws.com/superjoe/temp/dvorak.png

Retraining the brain is difficult in almost any facet. I tried switching keyboard layouts once, suffice it to say I've reverted to ye olde QWERTY.

by saym 13y ago

Retraining the brain is difficult in almost any facet. I tried switching keyboard layouts once, suffice it to say I've reverted to ye olde QWERTY.

yareally 13y ago

For what it's worth, I used Eclipse for 3-4 years before Intellij (it was what my university introduced students to for programming in C++ and Java). Switching to Intellij was pretty painless other than initial configuration overload (since there's so much more built into it by default than Eclipse). Having to switch back to Eclipse at times for a few things since was not so much. Intellij just as a much more intuitive UI and layout. Eclipse is fine if you're used to it, but it's much more dissociative by design when switching languages or usages than Intellij.

mikevm 13y ago
IntelliJ has such an ugly font rendering system on Windows that it makes it very hard for me to dump Eclipse. This prolly has to do with Eclipse's native font rendering.
- yareally 13y ago
  Yeah, it's not too great due to relying on the JVM for rendering. I use Liberation Mono with it and it looks pretty good (even with anti-aliasing set to off). Everything else, not so much. The top image[1] at the Slant programming font rank list[2] was a screenshot I took of Liberation Mono when using Intellij on Windows, just to give an example. I miss having bitmap fonts (which Eclipse does allow), but Liberation looks close enough to my favorite bitmap font (Dina), that I don't mind anymore. [1] http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3066/pythono.jpg http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3066/pythono.jpg (anti-aliasing was set to off when that was taken; italics suffer, but it's tolerable to me) [2] http://www.slant.co/topics/67/viewpoints/26/~what-are-the-best-programming-fonts~liberation-mono http://www.slant.co/topics/67/viewpoints/26/~what-are-the-be...
lenkite 13y ago
But the Intellij editor has some noticeable deficiencies. You cannot tab out of auto-completed text (parenthesis, quotes, etc). This feature is a major time-saver and if you are familiar with this feature in eclipse/visual studio/sublime text, you can find yourself handicapped in Intellij.
- yareally 13y ago
  Can you clarify what you mean? When I hit tab in visual studio it creates a tab in between a set of quotes (e.g. Console.Write("blah blah "); ) It could be because I'm using resharper, but just curious what the feature is you mention. Hitting the literal key that closes the completion (e.g. " or ) ) jumps out of the quote without adding another ) or " though.
  - yareally 13y ago
    Too late to edit my post, but you can complete the current line (in quotes or parentheses) by pressing ctrl+shift+enter, which jumps the cursor to the next line below. Works for Intellij or Visual Studio with Resharper.

AndyKelley 13y ago

it just takes time :) https://s3.amazonaws.com/superjoe/temp/dvorak.png https://s3.amazonaws.com/superjoe/temp/dvorak.png