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Furthermore, they are working on a cross-platform C++ IDE (hopefully using Clang for parsing): http://www.jetbrains.com/objc/features/cpp.html http://www.jetbra

by codex 13y ago

Furthermore, they are working on a cross-platform C++ IDE (hopefully using Clang for parsing): http://www.jetbrains.com/objc/features/cpp.html http://www.jetbrains.com/objc/features/cpp.html. I can't wait for the release.

Meai 13y ago
Doesn't mention anything about open source.
- millerm 13y ago
  Did you even bother looking? It states on the linked page that the code is under the Apache 2 License and the download page states it too: Community Edition FREE Lightweight IDE for Python development only Free, open-source, Apache 2 license Intelligent Editor, Debugger, Refactorings, Inspections, VCS integration Project Navigation, Testing support, Customizable UI, Vim key bindings
  - _stephan 13y ago
    I suppose Meai is referring to AppCode, which is a different product.
    - millerm 13y ago
      If so, my bad. :-)
fractalsea 13y ago
Yes I cannot wait. I recently started trying to learn some basic C/C++. My usual initial step in setting up an environment for a new language is to google "intellij plugin for X", so I was very disappointed to find that C/C++ is very poorly supported with respect to most other mainstream languages. I ended up having to go with Visual Studio, which is also impressive, but there are features I miss coming from the Jetbrains world.
- creatio 13y ago
  Why not try QtCreator then? It comes with GCC 4.8.1 for MinGW on windows if I'm not mistaken.
- cmircea 13y ago
  To be fair few IDEs support advanced functionality (like refactoring) with C++, due to the monstrosity that it is and the amount of UB. Visual Studio + ReSharper is awesome for C#, IntelliJ is awesome for Java. For C++ you're pretty much screwed.
  - alco 13y ago
    Clang is destined to change that. http://clang.llvm.org/features.html#applications http://clang.llvm.org/features.html#applications
  - polskibus 13y ago
    Have you tried VisualAssist plugin for C++ ? I really liked it, it had many "resharpery" features when I was using it (around 2 years ago).
- tseabrooks 13y ago
  Using C++ professionally for a while now (College, grad school, embedded sw) the best two complete IDEs I've found are SlickEdit (Cross platform) and Visual studio. If you've not tried SlickEdit I definitely suggest it (They have a trial). Additionally, they have an interesting blog post here describing whether they are an IDE or editor here: http://blog.slickedit.com/2007/08/editor-or-ide/ http://blog.slickedit.com/2007/08/editor-or-ide/ tl;dr SlickEdit has no built in compiler or debugger. It's other IDE level support is fantastic though and it was perfect for embedded development work where you're building from the command line (Which you can connect to the SlickEdit Project) and debugging using GDB.
pmattos 13y ago
With this new JetBrains IDE, Unix toolset, Xcode, etc, OS X might finally become a strictly better C++ development environment than Windows. One can hope...
- rwbt 13y ago
  Just curious, what is lacking in Xcode for C++ development? I've a few years experience with C++ and I find Xcode to be quite nice and usable.
  - nevster 13y ago
    Main things for me are the refactoring, code navigation (find usages is awesome!), and coding assistance. Check those out here : http://www.jetbrains.com/objc/features/ http://www.jetbrains.com/objc/features/
  - 9emE0iL18gxCqLT 13y ago
    XCode is not cross-platform! It doesn't integrate with other build systems: autotools, CMake, premake, Scons, etc.
    - mh- 13y ago
      depends what kind of integration you're thinking of, I guess? I assume you know of the 'External Build System' project-level support. from a quick search: http://meandmark.com/blog/2011/10/using-makefiles-in-xcode-4/ http://meandmark.com/blog/2011/10/using-makefiles-in-xcode-4...
andrewcooke 13y ago
does this mean that it will be an intellij plugin (similar to the way pycharm is - as far as i can tell - intellij + the python plugin)? i hope so - it's frustrating being a (paid!) intellij user without c support.
dimatura 13y ago
Any idea on the release timeframe?
jmcphers 13y ago
Indeed, right on the page: clang! "The IDE will be integrated with Clang Analyzer, so that more than 2000 code inspections and error diagnostics results from Clang compiler would be shown right in the editor. Of course, you also would be able to review them in a bulk mode." I use QT Creator for C++ authoring today primarily because of the Clang integration. Pretty excited to see it well-implemented by JetBrains.
- codex 13y ago
  There's a difference between using Clang (Analyzer) to provide error reporting and using it for their own internal parsing (for refactorings, cross references, etc.). I suspect their internal parsers are all written in Java, but let's hope in this case the parser is just a thin wrapper over Clang!

by codex 13y ago

Meai 13y ago

Doesn't mention anything about open source.

millerm 13y ago
Did you even bother looking? It states on the linked page that the code is under the Apache 2 License and the download page states it too: Community Edition FREE Lightweight IDE for Python development only Free, open-source, Apache 2 license Intelligent Editor, Debugger, Refactorings, Inspections, VCS integration Project Navigation, Testing support, Customizable UI, Vim key bindings
- _stephan 13y ago
  I suppose Meai is referring to AppCode, which is a different product.
  - millerm 13y ago
    If so, my bad. :-)

fractalsea 13y ago

Yes I cannot wait. I recently started trying to learn some basic C/C++. My usual initial step in setting up an environment for a new language is to google "intellij plugin for X", so I was very disappointed to find that C/C++ is very poorly supported with respect to most other mainstream languages. I ended up having to go with Visual Studio, which is also impressive, but there are features I miss coming from the Jetbrains world.

creatio 13y ago
Why not try QtCreator then? It comes with GCC 4.8.1 for MinGW on windows if I'm not mistaken.
cmircea 13y ago
To be fair few IDEs support advanced functionality (like refactoring) with C++, due to the monstrosity that it is and the amount of UB. Visual Studio + ReSharper is awesome for C#, IntelliJ is awesome for Java. For C++ you're pretty much screwed.
- alco 13y ago
  Clang is destined to change that. http://clang.llvm.org/features.html#applications http://clang.llvm.org/features.html#applications
- polskibus 13y ago
  Have you tried VisualAssist plugin for C++ ? I really liked it, it had many "resharpery" features when I was using it (around 2 years ago).
tseabrooks 13y ago
Using C++ professionally for a while now (College, grad school, embedded sw) the best two complete IDEs I've found are SlickEdit (Cross platform) and Visual studio. If you've not tried SlickEdit I definitely suggest it (They have a trial). Additionally, they have an interesting blog post here describing whether they are an IDE or editor here: http://blog.slickedit.com/2007/08/editor-or-ide/ http://blog.slickedit.com/2007/08/editor-or-ide/ tl;dr SlickEdit has no built in compiler or debugger. It's other IDE level support is fantastic though and it was perfect for embedded development work where you're building from the command line (Which you can connect to the SlickEdit Project) and debugging using GDB.

pmattos 13y ago

With this new JetBrains IDE, Unix toolset, Xcode, etc, OS X might finally become a strictly better C++ development environment than Windows. One can hope...

rwbt 13y ago
Just curious, what is lacking in Xcode for C++ development? I've a few years experience with C++ and I find Xcode to be quite nice and usable.
- nevster 13y ago
  Main things for me are the refactoring, code navigation (find usages is awesome!), and coding assistance. Check those out here : http://www.jetbrains.com/objc/features/ http://www.jetbrains.com/objc/features/
- 9emE0iL18gxCqLT 13y ago
  XCode is not cross-platform! It doesn't integrate with other build systems: autotools, CMake, premake, Scons, etc.
  - mh- 13y ago
    depends what kind of integration you're thinking of, I guess? I assume you know of the 'External Build System' project-level support. from a quick search: http://meandmark.com/blog/2011/10/using-makefiles-in-xcode-4/ http://meandmark.com/blog/2011/10/using-makefiles-in-xcode-4...

andrewcooke 13y ago

does this mean that it will be an intellij plugin (similar to the way pycharm is - as far as i can tell - intellij + the python plugin)? i hope so - it's frustrating being a (paid!) intellij user without c support.

dimatura 13y ago

Any idea on the release timeframe?

jmcphers 13y ago

Indeed, right on the page: clang! "The IDE will be integrated with Clang Analyzer, so that more than 2000 code inspections and error diagnostics results from Clang compiler would be shown right in the editor. Of course, you also would be able to review them in a bulk mode." I use QT Creator for C++ authoring today primarily because of the Clang integration. Pretty excited to see it well-implemented by JetBrains.

codex 13y ago
There's a difference between using Clang (Analyzer) to provide error reporting and using it for their own internal parsing (for refactorings, cross references, etc.). I suspect their internal parsers are all written in Java, but let's hope in this case the parser is just a thin wrapper over Clang!