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Bit of a concern coming from a top guy at Google.

by ximeng 13y ago

stephenr 13y ago
hardly fucking surprising. I don't get why so many seemingly intelligent people think Google/Facebook/LinkedIn/etc's whole approach of "get a heap of users, then mine the shit out of their personal data for profit" is OK.
- thedrbrian 13y ago
  Because they are blinded by the free.
  - stephenr 13y ago
    what about the businesses that sign up for google apps, PAY FOR IT, and still get ads, and their data treated like a common prostitute to share around with the world?
    - anxiousest 13y ago
      Ads in paid Google Apps are subject to admin control to whether enable them or not. Also technically speaking "prostitution" is a human only trait.
      - stephenr 13y ago
        would it be more accurate if i said their personal information is whored out to the highest bidder?
        anxiousest 13y ago
        No. For the same grammatical reasons and for the more important fact that they don't sell data or information, they sell ad placement that get populated with relevant ads determined by analysing said data. Advertisers don't buy the data, they aren't exposed to it, they are exposed to dashboards, aggregates, and abstractions, e.g "I want this product advertised to 18-35 year old males" then don't get to personally know their demographic.
        stephenr 13y ago
        guys in brothels don't get to personally know their whore, they say "i want a red head with big boobs" and pay the cash. i still say the analogy is apt.
anxiousest 13y ago
One: he's not just a "top guy at Google" he's Vint "I invented the internet" Cerf. Two: the headline is highly paraphrased, which I guess you know since you've read the whole thing. Also sociologically speaking even that warped baiting headline is technically correct. So, again since you actually read the piece, you'd agree that the point he was making is that "privacy", important as it is, is a subjective and evolving concept thus society shouldn't use it to dismiss or outright ban certain new technologies.
- stephenr 13y ago
  > certain new technologies of which his employer makes/uses/promotes several. just because someone did "good things" previously doesn't mean their actions and/or comments are all inherently "good".

Bit of a concern coming from a top guy at Google.

by ximeng 13y ago

Bit of a concern coming from a top guy at Google.

hardly fucking surprising. I don't get why so many seemingly intelligent people think Google/Facebook/LinkedIn/etc's whole approach of "get a heap of users, then mine the shit out of their personal data for profit" is OK.

thedrbrian 13y ago
Because they are blinded by the free.
- stephenr 13y ago
  what about the businesses that sign up for google apps, PAY FOR IT, and still get ads, and their data treated like a common prostitute to share around with the world?
  - anxiousest 13y ago
    Ads in paid Google Apps are subject to admin control to whether enable them or not. Also technically speaking "prostitution" is a human only trait.
    - stephenr 13y ago
      would it be more accurate if i said their personal information is whored out to the highest bidder?
      - anxiousest 13y ago
        No. For the same grammatical reasons and for the more important fact that they don't sell data or information, they sell ad placement that get populated with relevant ads determined by analysing said data. Advertisers don't buy the data, they aren't exposed to it, they are exposed to dashboards, aggregates, and abstractions, e.g "I want this product advertised to 18-35 year old males" then don't get to personally know their demographic.
        stephenr 13y ago
        guys in brothels don't get to personally know their whore, they say "i want a red head with big boobs" and pay the cash. i still say the analogy is apt.

anxiousest 13y ago

One: he's not just a "top guy at Google" he's Vint "I invented the internet" Cerf. Two: the headline is highly paraphrased, which I guess you know since you've read the whole thing. Also sociologically speaking even that warped baiting headline is technically correct. So, again since you actually read the piece, you'd agree that the point he was making is that "privacy", important as it is, is a subjective and evolving concept thus society shouldn't use it to dismiss or outright ban certain new technologies.

stephenr 13y ago
> certain new technologies of which his employer makes/uses/promotes several. just because someone did "good things" previously doesn't mean their actions and/or comments are all inherently "good".