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Webpage has a play button to "Listen to Komarov as the Soyuz capsule began to fail". And then - unbelievably - there is a link for buying it for "89 cents at A

by MrBra 13y ago

Webpage has a play button to "Listen to Komarov as the Soyuz capsule began to fail". And then - unbelievably - there is a link for buying it for "89 cents at Amazon.com". At Amazon they're selling one man's last words of despair. And linking to that you are even advertising this. The whole thing is sick and sad.

civilian 13y ago
I paid 15 euros in Kutna Hora (Czech Republic) to visit the Ossuary and the Cathedral nearby. There were roughly 10k stacked skeletons in the Ossuary basement, and there were two cannonized Saints in the Cathedral. (As in-- mummified and dressed up, in glass boxes with wax faces.) The market is everywhere, and your emotion is misplaced.
- hyperbovine 13y ago
  Cathedrals and catacombs at least require some upkeep. If the $.89 is somehow making its way to this man's next of kin then fine. Otherwise it just seems like cynical profiteering.
  - baddox 13y ago
    You're using a fairly useless theory of value for this context.
    - hyperbovine 13y ago
      I do not know what that sentence means.
- killerpopiller 13y ago
  no it is not and shouldn't. Selling ones last words is body-strapping and a violation of the persons civil liberties. And the market isn't anywhere, it is a defined area with laws as fences and you don't live in wilderness but in society where we people decided that rules improve life. Besides, this display of dead people similar to one in Palermo/Italy is macabre and mentally healthy people probably have emotions looking at dead people exhibitions, especially since one doesn't learn anything of it. In contrast to http://www.bodyworlds.com/en/ http://www.bodyworlds.com/en/
  - jlgreco 13y ago
    > one doesn't learn anything of it. I agree that the sale is in bad taste, but I think you go too far there. At the least some people find value in humbling reminders of our own mortality. In that way it is not entirely dissimilar from guided tours of battlefields, camps, etc. The information that you learn during those can be picked up in more 'sterile' books, but that lacks the emotional impact of actually seeing where something happened, or hearing something happen.
    - killerpopiller 13y ago
      indeed, a confrontation with ones own mortality might help with appreciation of life. I would differantiate between battlefields and staging dead bodies. To me the categorical imperativ helps evaluating those situations. Do you want your dead body being kept around as attraction? If those poor souls didn't freely agree than we don't know their will, so no. It is similar to keep a real skull around for the giggles, lack of respect.
alexeisadeski3 13y ago
Will somebody please think of the children??
lolwutf 13y ago
Depraved? Yes. Intentional? I doubt it. Something they'd fix, if it were pointed out to them? I'd like to think so. Why don't you write them a note, instead of offering your opinions here?
- civilian 13y ago
  Another thing to point out-- the track is part of a larger collection of tracks meant to be used by people making film about space history; or possibly use it as a sample. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002SHRCX6/ref=dm_sp_alb http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002SHRCX6/ref=dm_sp_alb And it was published in 1998, when it would've been hard to find on the internet. That it's selling on Amazon is just part of a trend that most old media is sold cheaply on Amazon.
- icebraining 13y ago
  Something they'd fix, if it were pointed out to them? I'd like to think so. It has, in fact, been taken offline. (Along with the whole collection of "sound effects".)
  - MrBra 13y ago
    It has not been taken offline. The OP changed the link to point to the "updated" version of the story while the original one is still at http://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/2011/05/02/134597833/cosmonaut-crashed-into-earth-crying-in-rage http://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/2011/05/02/134597833/cosmo... which still has the audio file and link to buy it on amazon.
    - icebraining 13y ago
      Odd, I actually tried to open the link and it redirected me to the homepage of the Amazon MP3 Store, so I assumed the song had been taken offline. Sorry.

by MrBra 13y ago

civilian 13y ago

I paid 15 euros in Kutna Hora (Czech Republic) to visit the Ossuary and the Cathedral nearby. There were roughly 10k stacked skeletons in the Ossuary basement, and there were two cannonized Saints in the Cathedral. (As in-- mummified and dressed up, in glass boxes with wax faces.) The market is everywhere, and your emotion is misplaced.

hyperbovine 13y ago
Cathedrals and catacombs at least require some upkeep. If the $.89 is somehow making its way to this man's next of kin then fine. Otherwise it just seems like cynical profiteering.
- baddox 13y ago
  You're using a fairly useless theory of value for this context.
  - hyperbovine 13y ago
    I do not know what that sentence means.
killerpopiller 13y ago
no it is not and shouldn't. Selling ones last words is body-strapping and a violation of the persons civil liberties. And the market isn't anywhere, it is a defined area with laws as fences and you don't live in wilderness but in society where we people decided that rules improve life. Besides, this display of dead people similar to one in Palermo/Italy is macabre and mentally healthy people probably have emotions looking at dead people exhibitions, especially since one doesn't learn anything of it. In contrast to http://www.bodyworlds.com/en/ http://www.bodyworlds.com/en/
- jlgreco 13y ago
  > one doesn't learn anything of it. I agree that the sale is in bad taste, but I think you go too far there. At the least some people find value in humbling reminders of our own mortality. In that way it is not entirely dissimilar from guided tours of battlefields, camps, etc. The information that you learn during those can be picked up in more 'sterile' books, but that lacks the emotional impact of actually seeing where something happened, or hearing something happen.
  - killerpopiller 13y ago
    indeed, a confrontation with ones own mortality might help with appreciation of life. I would differantiate between battlefields and staging dead bodies. To me the categorical imperativ helps evaluating those situations. Do you want your dead body being kept around as attraction? If those poor souls didn't freely agree than we don't know their will, so no. It is similar to keep a real skull around for the giggles, lack of respect.

alexeisadeski3 13y ago

Will somebody please think of the children??

lolwutf 13y ago

Depraved? Yes. Intentional? I doubt it. Something they'd fix, if it were pointed out to them? I'd like to think so. Why don't you write them a note, instead of offering your opinions here?

civilian 13y ago
Another thing to point out-- the track is part of a larger collection of tracks meant to be used by people making film about space history; or possibly use it as a sample. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002SHRCX6/ref=dm_sp_alb http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002SHRCX6/ref=dm_sp_alb And it was published in 1998, when it would've been hard to find on the internet. That it's selling on Amazon is just part of a trend that most old media is sold cheaply on Amazon.
icebraining 13y ago
Something they'd fix, if it were pointed out to them? I'd like to think so. It has, in fact, been taken offline. (Along with the whole collection of "sound effects".)
- MrBra 13y ago
  It has not been taken offline. The OP changed the link to point to the "updated" version of the story while the original one is still at http://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/2011/05/02/134597833/cosmonaut-crashed-into-earth-crying-in-rage http://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/2011/05/02/134597833/cosmo... which still has the audio file and link to buy it on amazon.
  - icebraining 13y ago
    Odd, I actually tried to open the link and it redirected me to the homepage of the Amazon MP3 Store, so I assumed the song had been taken offline. Sorry.