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powershell ... seriously, it's really good. And Cygwin if you really want that unix shell experience :)

untog 13y ago
I don't doubt that Powershell is good, but it's different. I've grown to appreciate being able to use all the same commands on my dev box as I do on my servers, and while Cygwin covers the basics, it doesn't do it all.
- phaus 13y ago
  With newer versions of Windows, Microsoft has attempted to bring powershell on par with the linux terminal. Supposedly, every admin function possible in the OS is now capable of being performed in Powershell. The only downside is that some if the commands are uneccessarily verbose in comparison.
  - ihsw 13y ago
    Their push into headless Window Server deployment has certainly driven Microsoft to shore up PowerShell. Recently they're taking on declarative server configurations (ie: puppet) with their own brand of it -- Desired State Configuration. http://blogs.technet.com/b/privatecloud/archive/2013/08/30/introducing-powershell-desired-state-configuration-dsc.aspx http://blogs.technet.com/b/privatecloud/archive/2013/08/30/i...
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rbanffy 13y ago
Cygwin + MinTTY can make Windows bearable, but, if you have already moved to Mac, why bother? OSX combined to MacPorts makes for a very functional development environment. The only very specific downside is that it won't run Visual Studio. BTW, can the Pro 2 run Linux?
- untog 13y ago
  if you have already moved to Mac, why bother? Because there is no Surface Pro 2 equivalent that will run OSX. And by "run OSX" I mean "made by Apple" because there's no other way to run it. And I doubt very much that the Pro 2 can do Linux well - can any tablets? I'd be interested to know the state of Linux touch interfaces/drivers.
  - dragontamer 13y ago
    Surface Pro 1 ran Linux just fine. Its a full laptop. Why wouldn't Surface Pro2 run linux?
    - pjmlp 13y ago
      drivers?
  - rbanffy 13y ago
    Ubuntu has been working with touch for some time now and I would expect it to work adequately. I assume the keyboard/cover emulates a keyboard, so keyboard access should not be a problem. My worst fears come from hardware support. After having bad experiences with laptops that come bundled with Windows, I am fully aware hardware can be designed not to work with Linux.
- nivla 13y ago
  >BTW, can the Pro 2 run Linux? I know you can on the Surface Pro 1. So I don't see why you won't be able to on the Surface Pro 2. Its an x86 machine as per their own requirement, bios have to be unlocked and the ability to disable secure boot must be present.

untog 13y ago

I don't doubt that Powershell is good, but it's different. I've grown to appreciate being able to use all the same commands on my dev box as I do on my servers, and while Cygwin covers the basics, it doesn't do it all.

phaus 13y ago
With newer versions of Windows, Microsoft has attempted to bring powershell on par with the linux terminal. Supposedly, every admin function possible in the OS is now capable of being performed in Powershell. The only downside is that some if the commands are uneccessarily verbose in comparison.
- ihsw 13y ago
  Their push into headless Window Server deployment has certainly driven Microsoft to shore up PowerShell. Recently they're taking on declarative server configurations (ie: puppet) with their own brand of it -- Desired State Configuration. http://blogs.technet.com/b/privatecloud/archive/2013/08/30/introducing-powershell-desired-state-configuration-dsc.aspx http://blogs.technet.com/b/privatecloud/archive/2013/08/30/i...
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rbanffy 13y ago

Cygwin + MinTTY can make Windows bearable, but, if you have already moved to Mac, why bother? OSX combined to MacPorts makes for a very functional development environment. The only very specific downside is that it won't run Visual Studio. BTW, can the Pro 2 run Linux?

untog 13y ago
if you have already moved to Mac, why bother? Because there is no Surface Pro 2 equivalent that will run OSX. And by "run OSX" I mean "made by Apple" because there's no other way to run it. And I doubt very much that the Pro 2 can do Linux well - can any tablets? I'd be interested to know the state of Linux touch interfaces/drivers.
- dragontamer 13y ago
  Surface Pro 1 ran Linux just fine. Its a full laptop. Why wouldn't Surface Pro2 run linux?
  - pjmlp 13y ago
    drivers?
- rbanffy 13y ago
  Ubuntu has been working with touch for some time now and I would expect it to work adequately. I assume the keyboard/cover emulates a keyboard, so keyboard access should not be a problem. My worst fears come from hardware support. After having bad experiences with laptops that come bundled with Windows, I am fully aware hardware can be designed not to work with Linux.
nivla 13y ago
>BTW, can the Pro 2 run Linux? I know you can on the Surface Pro 1. So I don't see why you won't be able to on the Surface Pro 2. Its an x86 machine as per their own requirement, bios have to be unlocked and the ability to disable secure boot must be present.