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Apple's marketing is insufferable. The apple designed A6 chip? What a complete load. What did they design exactly, the apple logo they paste on it? And they tal

by Kequc 13y ago

Apple's marketing is insufferable. The apple designed A6 chip? What a complete load. What did they design exactly, the apple logo they paste on it? And they talk about going 64bit on a device that has only 1GB of memory as though that is a benefit to anyone. It will slow down every single app out there currently. The benefit of going 64bit is that it gets people to start writing apps that support the technology. For the future. When 64bit phones will actually make any sense, so it's a good move but they talk about it like it's a benefit to consumers now. What is the markup on these things? Who is buying a phone that costs more than 3 times as much as its competitors and the screen size still hasn't exceeded 4 inches? The "retina" display on these isn't even 720p. I'm obviously disturbed. Don't even get me started on the 5c.

nixy 13y ago
Insufferable marketing aside, people seem to think that Apple can back it up with one of the best quality smartphones on the market.
acchow 13y ago
> The apple designed A6 chip? AFAIK, these claims are actually legitimate since Apple's acquisition of P. A. Semi a few years ago. > And they talk about going 64bit on a device that has only 1GB of memory as though that is a benefit to anyone. Double-precision floating point instructions will be much faster. > Who is buying a phone that costs more than 3 times as much as its competitors and the screen size still hasn't exceeded 4 inches? There are plenty of people who prefer the smaller size - I am one of them. My daily carry is an HTC One, and I love it (I think it's the best smartphone available). But...the screen is too big. The "back" button is also on the far bottom-left corner and I normally use the phone with one hand. Stretching to reach that button 5000x a day makes my hand hurt. My hand actually hurts. Also, I now have a hole in the front pocket of two pairs of jeans. Which phone is 1/3rd the price and comes even close in the camera quality? I think the iPhone 5S competes on the high-end smartphone market - HTC One, Galaxy S4, Nokia 1020. The price is competitive. > The "retina" display on these isn't even 720p. So you'd prefer more pixels which your eye can't see because...
- Kequc 13y ago
  According to wikipedia the processors that PA Semi make are not used in any of Apple's current devices. Which would be part of the reason I'd never heard of that. The A6 chip is designed and manufactured by Samsung. Apple may have had a hand in encouraging them to go 64bit on something that uses a GB of memory, because why else would Samsung do that. But that doesn't exactly count. It is not much faster because the amount of memory is not enough to make the technology really useful. The technology uses more memory than 32bit. Many tests have been conducted on this kind of thing 64bit isn't new. It has been shown that using less than 4GB of memory with a 64bit processor can often result in slower speeds. Let alone like I mentioned that all the 32bit apps now have to run on top of another layer in the OS. And, apps that take advantage of 64bit will either not run on any other device, or they will have separate versions for 64bit and 32bit. Or they will simply be 32bit. Which will I would imagine be the case for at least a little while. I was referring to the Nexus 4 in my price comparison. A phone which is in the process of being replaced with a new version very soon. It's a good phone. More pixels my eye can't see at what distance? It's a handheld device I'll hold it at whatever distance I want to. 720p is a reasonable resolution to expect. This isn't 2010 anymore. Are my criticisms really that unreasonable?
  - acchow 13y ago
    > According to wikipedia the processors that PA Semi make are not used in any of Apple's current devices. This is misleading. PA Semi used to make Power chips. Apple uses only ARM and x86 now, so of course anything from PA Semi isn't in any apple products. But, we won't hear any announcements about PA semi's work anymore since PA Semi has stopped its Power business and its 150 employees were subsumed into Apple. Apple claims to have designed the custom ARM chips in their iDevices. You think they are lying about that? They certainly have the engineering power to do it... > I was referring to the Nexus 4 in my price comparison. A phone which is in the process of being replaced with a new version very soon. It's a good phone. Yes, the Nexus 4 is a good phone. It's not a "great" phone. The camera quality is terrible; when you put it face down on a table the ringer is mostly inaudible; the battery life leaves much to be desired; speaker quality is bad; no LTE; etc. It doesn't compete with the high end smartphones, and it's priced accordingly. > Are my criticisms really that unreasonable? I believe your criticisms are based upon inaccurate assumptions. Please check your facts.

by Kequc 13y ago

nixy 13y ago

Insufferable marketing aside, people seem to think that Apple can back it up with one of the best quality smartphones on the market.

acchow 13y ago

> The apple designed A6 chip? AFAIK, these claims are actually legitimate since Apple's acquisition of P. A. Semi a few years ago. > And they talk about going 64bit on a device that has only 1GB of memory as though that is a benefit to anyone. Double-precision floating point instructions will be much faster. > Who is buying a phone that costs more than 3 times as much as its competitors and the screen size still hasn't exceeded 4 inches? There are plenty of people who prefer the smaller size - I am one of them. My daily carry is an HTC One, and I love it (I think it's the best smartphone available). But...the screen is too big. The "back" button is also on the far bottom-left corner and I normally use the phone with one hand. Stretching to reach that button 5000x a day makes my hand hurt. My hand actually hurts. Also, I now have a hole in the front pocket of two pairs of jeans. Which phone is 1/3rd the price and comes even close in the camera quality? I think the iPhone 5S competes on the high-end smartphone market - HTC One, Galaxy S4, Nokia 1020. The price is competitive. > The "retina" display on these isn't even 720p. So you'd prefer more pixels which your eye can't see because...

Kequc 13y ago
According to wikipedia the processors that PA Semi make are not used in any of Apple's current devices. Which would be part of the reason I'd never heard of that. The A6 chip is designed and manufactured by Samsung. Apple may have had a hand in encouraging them to go 64bit on something that uses a GB of memory, because why else would Samsung do that. But that doesn't exactly count. It is not much faster because the amount of memory is not enough to make the technology really useful. The technology uses more memory than 32bit. Many tests have been conducted on this kind of thing 64bit isn't new. It has been shown that using less than 4GB of memory with a 64bit processor can often result in slower speeds. Let alone like I mentioned that all the 32bit apps now have to run on top of another layer in the OS. And, apps that take advantage of 64bit will either not run on any other device, or they will have separate versions for 64bit and 32bit. Or they will simply be 32bit. Which will I would imagine be the case for at least a little while. I was referring to the Nexus 4 in my price comparison. A phone which is in the process of being replaced with a new version very soon. It's a good phone. More pixels my eye can't see at what distance? It's a handheld device I'll hold it at whatever distance I want to. 720p is a reasonable resolution to expect. This isn't 2010 anymore. Are my criticisms really that unreasonable?
- acchow 13y ago
  > According to wikipedia the processors that PA Semi make are not used in any of Apple's current devices. This is misleading. PA Semi used to make Power chips. Apple uses only ARM and x86 now, so of course anything from PA Semi isn't in any apple products. But, we won't hear any announcements about PA semi's work anymore since PA Semi has stopped its Power business and its 150 employees were subsumed into Apple. Apple claims to have designed the custom ARM chips in their iDevices. You think they are lying about that? They certainly have the engineering power to do it... > I was referring to the Nexus 4 in my price comparison. A phone which is in the process of being replaced with a new version very soon. It's a good phone. Yes, the Nexus 4 is a good phone. It's not a "great" phone. The camera quality is terrible; when you put it face down on a table the ringer is mostly inaudible; the battery life leaves much to be desired; speaker quality is bad; no LTE; etc. It doesn't compete with the high end smartphones, and it's priced accordingly. > Are my criticisms really that unreasonable? I believe your criticisms are based upon inaccurate assumptions. Please check your facts.