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Then there are those of us at the opposite end of the age spectrum... I hated the look of iOS 7. Very hard on aging eyes. Replaced the wallpaper with a custom p

Then there are those of us at the opposite end of the age spectrum... I hated the look of iOS 7. Very hard on aging eyes. Replaced the wallpaper with a custom photo with my favorite background color for my text editor. Still can't find a way to get the high contrast, dark keypad back. Grrr. (expletive deleted), Apple - not everything needs to look like an hipster toy...

k-mcgrady 13y ago
And then there are those of us who love the new design in iOS 7. And I know quite a few non-technical people who also think it's great. UI changes, no matter how great, are always going to piss off someone. A lot of the time that someone probably has a very good reason to be pissed off. BUT the changes might also benefit a lot of people who aren't as vocal. We shouldn't hold back innovation because we're scared of pissing people off. Of course we also shouldn't change just for the sake of it. [This isn't directed specifically at the parent but at the issue in general].
- mempko 13y ago
  It could be said a different way. Design changes, no matter how shitty, are always going to have someone love them....
VLM 13y ago
You have two peculiar observations brought about by one root cause and drifted off into the wrong theoretical cause. The root cause is the traditional old style vs substance. This fits your observation that its harder to use, both to read and to keyboard. But its not marketed / designed as a tool to do anything, its a fashion accessory, so its irrelevant if its usable. What matters is if its shiny. That led you astray into the whole ageism anti-hipster thing. I also laugh at hipster kids, but the problem in this individual scenario has nothing to do with age. Imagine if a hardware store released the iHammer and it was just like a conventional hammer, but cost much more so you could show off how rich you must be, and was painted blue, they made the hammer head pointy to be edgy and cool, had lace tied around the handle, and shipped it in a really cool origami clear plastic box. Anyone in search of a productive carpenters tool is going to be horribly disappointed and make fun of the iHammer, but thats not the point, the correct reason to buy a iHammer is to show off to their peers. iDevices are no longer useful. That's OK. They're supposed to be fashion accessories, not useful devices.
- coldpie 13y ago
  > iDevices are no longer useful. That's OK. They're supposed to be fashion accessories, not useful devices. Unfortunately the issue is the lack of a quality alternative. My best friend was an iPhone user, then switched to a Samsung Galaxy S2 because he wanted to be able to use is phone as a mass storage device, among other things. Eventually he switched back to the iPhone because the Galaxy was so unreliable. After less than a year, his phone would just silently shut off a couple times throughout the day. And he's far from the only person I know who's had Android reliability problems. My old HTC Incredible would stop responding to input a couple times a week until I yanked the battery. All that said, I'm sticking with Android because I have a high tolerance for pain. iDevices may no longer be useful, but at least they work.
  - the_watcher 13y ago
    The iPhone is the best mobile option. I am much more attracted to Android than iOS (openness, the app store policies), but it just doesn't work as well as iOS. It's a bit cliche, but iPhone's just work.
  - twistedpair 13y ago
    My gf's iPhone5 started crapping out at 3 weeks old. My Galaxy S1 hung on just fine until I got the GS4 last month. Anecdotes on individual failures do not data make.
  - cja 13y ago
    Samsung Galaxy phones do not have proper Android. You (and everyone else) wants a Nexus device but doesn't understand or care that they do.
- parasubvert 13y ago
  Could you pack any more condescension in a post against happy iOS users? I happen to like ios7 because it is the most productive mobile OS available, for my needs. Which are not trivial.
  - VLM 13y ago
parasubvert 13y ago
Have you tried "invert colors" under accessibility? Makes the color palette rather crazy but at least everything is dark. I don't understand what light colours have to do with hipsters though, most UIs tend towards lighter colours, it's the old school unix coonsoles that preferred dark.
Poiesis 13y ago
There is a setting that might help, although it does not seem to affect the keyboard much if at all: Settings -> General -> Accessibility -> Increase Contrast

k-mcgrady 13y ago

And then there are those of us who love the new design in iOS 7. And I know quite a few non-technical people who also think it's great. UI changes, no matter how great, are always going to piss off someone. A lot of the time that someone probably has a very good reason to be pissed off. BUT the changes might also benefit a lot of people who aren't as vocal. We shouldn't hold back innovation because we're scared of pissing people off. Of course we also shouldn't change just for the sake of it. [This isn't directed specifically at the parent but at the issue in general].

mempko 13y ago
It could be said a different way. Design changes, no matter how shitty, are always going to have someone love them....

VLM 13y ago

You have two peculiar observations brought about by one root cause and drifted off into the wrong theoretical cause. The root cause is the traditional old style vs substance. This fits your observation that its harder to use, both to read and to keyboard. But its not marketed / designed as a tool to do anything, its a fashion accessory, so its irrelevant if its usable. What matters is if its shiny. That led you astray into the whole ageism anti-hipster thing. I also laugh at hipster kids, but the problem in this individual scenario has nothing to do with age. Imagine if a hardware store released the iHammer and it was just like a conventional hammer, but cost much more so you could show off how rich you must be, and was painted blue, they made the hammer head pointy to be edgy and cool, had lace tied around the handle, and shipped it in a really cool origami clear plastic box. Anyone in search of a productive carpenters tool is going to be horribly disappointed and make fun of the iHammer, but thats not the point, the correct reason to buy a iHammer is to show off to their peers. iDevices are no longer useful. That's OK. They're supposed to be fashion accessories, not useful devices.

coldpie 13y ago
> iDevices are no longer useful. That's OK. They're supposed to be fashion accessories, not useful devices. Unfortunately the issue is the lack of a quality alternative. My best friend was an iPhone user, then switched to a Samsung Galaxy S2 because he wanted to be able to use is phone as a mass storage device, among other things. Eventually he switched back to the iPhone because the Galaxy was so unreliable. After less than a year, his phone would just silently shut off a couple times throughout the day. And he's far from the only person I know who's had Android reliability problems. My old HTC Incredible would stop responding to input a couple times a week until I yanked the battery. All that said, I'm sticking with Android because I have a high tolerance for pain. iDevices may no longer be useful, but at least they work.
- the_watcher 13y ago
  The iPhone is the best mobile option. I am much more attracted to Android than iOS (openness, the app store policies), but it just doesn't work as well as iOS. It's a bit cliche, but iPhone's just work.
- twistedpair 13y ago
  My gf's iPhone5 started crapping out at 3 weeks old. My Galaxy S1 hung on just fine until I got the GS4 last month. Anecdotes on individual failures do not data make.
- cja 13y ago
  Samsung Galaxy phones do not have proper Android. You (and everyone else) wants a Nexus device but doesn't understand or care that they do.
parasubvert 13y ago
Could you pack any more condescension in a post against happy iOS users? I happen to like ios7 because it is the most productive mobile OS available, for my needs. Which are not trivial.
- VLM 13y ago

parasubvert 13y ago

Have you tried "invert colors" under accessibility? Makes the color palette rather crazy but at least everything is dark. I don't understand what light colours have to do with hipsters though, most UIs tend towards lighter colours, it's the old school unix coonsoles that preferred dark.

Poiesis 13y ago

There is a setting that might help, although it does not seem to affect the keyboard much if at all: Settings -> General -> Accessibility -> Increase Contrast