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I lived in Mexico for two years after the crisis of 2008. It was already obvious then that the median college graduate in Mexico had a higher material quality o
by WildUtah 13y ago
I lived in Mexico for two years after the crisis of 2008. It was already obvious then that the median college graduate in Mexico had a higher material quality of life than the average American college grad.
The wages are lower but the Mexican cost of living hasn't been bid up by severe development restrictions, badly planned infrastructure, and finance industry corruption. Middle class life south of the border is more comfortable than in the USA because prices for housing and transportation aren't driven by status bidding wars for the limited set of safe, quality locations and good school districts.
Unskilled workers still make a lot more in the USA and have a richer life there, but the smaller Mexican educated class is maintaining its quality of life as it expands. It already matches the wealth north of the Rio Grande.
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I should add an example.
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For example, imagine we're comparing LA to Guadalajara or SF to Mexico City. With a degree from a good school, a civil servant might start out making $750 a month in Mexico or $2200 a month in the USA, after taxes. A decent small shared apartment will cost $200 in Mexico or $800 in the USA. The American will need a car for at least $400 a month, but cheap, efficient, and somewhat comfortable public transit is available all over Mexico. Electronics and internet cost the same. Splurging out at a nice restaurant can be done for $15 a person in Mexico that compares to $60 a person in LA or SF. The Mexican will graduate without any student loan debt while the American is paying every month, so that nice restaurant will be out of reach in El Norte, anyway.
A fairly well paid engineer in Mexico might be making $2200 a month while his American equivalent makes $7000, after taxes (think $100k-$140k US salary) . A nice apartment in a fancy part of Mexico City suitable for a family might cost $800 a month, but development policy has kept single family homes equally affordable in central areas, too. Nice apartments in SF cost $3500 a month and houses cost much more. Most professionals in urban Mexico don't need or want a car, but in SF the engineer and his spouse will both spend so much time in one that they'll need two nice cars and dedicated parking. Okay, I already can't figure out how the US person can afford to have a family at all; maybe that's why they don't. The Mexican engineer will be living pretty and thinking about a third kid. And Gosh help the American if he ever needs health care.
On the other hand, the minimum wage for unskilled labor in Mexico is about $5 a day.
- velodrome 13y agoHow is the crime/education in Mexico City? Is it comparable?
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- WildUtah 13y agoMexico City has crime rates comparable to California cities but higher than NYC. It's considered the second safest metro in the country, after Mérida. The drug traffic violence worries everyone but is mostly confined to border states. Education is complicated and very different from the USA. The local public elementary school that I walked past every day seemed to have literate students and attentive teachers working sincerely on education but there's a scandal of unqualified teacher hiring and international test results from rural areas are depressing. The neighborhood I lived in was considered activist and organized so it may have been unrepresentative. The former leader of the national teacher's union went to jail this year and the new president is working on reforms. Free guaranteed schooling ends after eight years. Competitive testing puts a really large number of students into many different large but good public high schools with serious academic focus. Those who don't pass or who want more personalized or specialized attention can find private high schools ranging from cheap to Manhattan prices. Several nearly free universities comparable to good top-tier and second tier state schools in the USA also take many students based on exams. More expensive private schools are also available. So if you train your kids right and play the game, quality education is very cheap. If you let them screw up and get behind, it may cost a lot to get them back on track.
- rsheridan6 13y agoLA and SF are not representative of all of the US. A professional in flyover country is going to have a lifestyle more like the Mexican professional you describe than the American one in the expensive coastal cities, except that the flyover country American will need a car. I'm looking for a rental right now. For $800 I would expect a three bedroom house (with free parking, of course), not a small shared apartment.